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If we are around after Obama is done....
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Anhil8tor Wrote:I wonder what snarg does for them?

Polishing the knobs ...????

Why do I keep this cesspool alive?
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#22

snarg Wrote:sorry, flump
i live here, the zetas run things here
they are american trained anti-drug commandos
the place where they trained is still operating
can't remember the name right now
they run roughshod over all the different police organizations
they are better trained and the judges are afraid of them
the federal government here is worried that they are losing control of the country to these thugs

my friend fixes their rolexes and piagets
it is good not to be on their bad side
killing is sport for them

Well, I hear there current thing is to kidnap people, regardless of their wealth and hold them ransom hoping that some family member somewhere will have money to pay. Then they behead them and leave the heads on porches or in front of the houses.

These guys that work for me are even afraid now to drive in Mexico. When they go now, they ride buses. A few years ago they would drive, but convoy with a bunch of them following each other in case someone had car trouble. Now they won't even do that.

I can't imagine what it must be like living down there. Mexico has always been known for corruption, but this is insane. This is almost like having the Taliban running things.
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#23

Anhil8tor Wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/natio...4347.story
An Iranian defector told the West that Iran was financing North Korean moves to transform Syria into a nuclear weapons power, leading to the Israeli airstrike that destroyed a secret reactor, a report said Thursday.




http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20...ssile_test
In our hug not bomb mentality this will never happen.


8 please tell me what the better strategy that has kept up safer was.The Clinton approach that Obama is going back to that limited them to making 0 nukes while Bill was in office or the Bush hard ass approach that left us with 8 nukes and one succesfull test for N Korea before bush left office?Answer that.



8 how can you call Obama pro israel?ask the israeli's and they will say the opposite since he's against the settlements and netenyahu is for them.Do you even know what the settlements are?If you'd like to have a policy debate over this without using pictures you found with inaccurate info as your argument I'd welcome it.


Stocks are going up so you can't criticize Obama on that so you're diving into a world you have no clue about in foreign policy.You can't spell half the countries that are involved let alone understand the issues that are out there.Stick to joking him about the economy when you can.You are way over your head here.

See You In Toledo
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#24

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Well, I hear there current thing is to kidnap people, regardless of their wealth and hold them ransom hoping that some family member somewhere will have money to pay. Then they behead them and leave the heads on porches or in front of the houses.

These guys that work for me are even afraid now to drive in Mexico. When they go now, they ride buses. A few years ago they would drive, but convoy with a bunch of them following each other in case someone had car trouble. Now they won't even do that.

I can't imagine what it must be like living down there. Mexico has always been known for corruption, but this is insane. This is almost like having the Taliban running things.

the kidnapping is another thing entirely, not too much here, but mexico city and tijuana are pretty bad
your guys are pussies
i have driven across mexico three times in the last year and a half
i will be driving from the yucatan to texas in april

the thing that surprises me the most is how little collateral damage there is when the assassins go to work
they get who they are after and innocents don't often get hurt

it is like when i lived in new jersey
the fbi comes and takes the neighbor away
everyone says, "wow, he was such a nice guy, stalwart of the community" as he is being booked for multiple murders
don't over-dramatize, i think your guys are pulling your chain

I realise that I have a past to break with--an accumulation of inertia, wrong, foolishness, rot, junk.  A great need of clarification, of mindfulness, or rather, of no mind.  A need to return to genuine practice, right effort.  Need to push on the great doubt.  Need for the spirit.  Hang on to the clear light.
           
Thomas Merton


       
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#25

snarg Wrote:the kidnapping is another thing entirely, not too much here, but mexico city and tijuana are pretty bad
your guys are pussies
i have driven across mexico three times in the last year and a half
i will be driving from the yucatan to texas in april

the thing that surprises me the most is how little collateral damage there is when the assassins go to work
they get who they are after and innocents don't often get hurt

it is like when i lived in new jersey
the fbi comes and takes the neighbor away
everyone says, "wow, he was such a nice guy, stalwart of the community" as he is being booked for multiple murders
don't over-dramatize, i think your guys are pulling your chain

No, I don't think that they are. And pussies they aren't. But when they travel they have wives and kids, so maybe they do it for their safety. I know that the same ones that took the bus at christmas just drove last week to go to a funeral. So, when its just them, I guess they drive it.

I know they are not exaggerating the kidnappings. One of them had an uncle kidnapped and they are still extorting money from him even after he paid his ransom to be released. They claim the gangs that are doing the kidnappings are the same ones that are running the drugs. But I'm not sure how they know other than what they hear. I know they don't trust the cops down there. They say most of the police are pretty well owned by the gangs.
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#26

yeah, the drug lords own a lot of the cops, and, more importantly, a lot of very highly placed officials
i think the kidnapping is prevalent in certain areas, and not run by the drug cartels
the drug kings are into a lot of stuff, tho
if you are selling pirated cds, or other shit on the street, they are getting a part, or you are out of bidness, ferinstsance
they are even moving in on the beach vendors, many of whom are really poor guatemalans
not a nice group of guys

i used to hang with the pgr, basically the federal police
they used to make me go on "drive-arounds" with them
they would scare the shit out of people andd take them to the atm
one time they had some guys shitting their pants and handed me a gun and told me, "don't let anyone come around this way"
fuck, i was really pissed off, i wanted to shoot the mother fucker who gave me the gun

i got them some girls one nite and gave them some rooms in the hotel i was managing
one of the guys got out of hand and i fucking went batshit on him
it was funny, cause i'm not too big, but the big cheese backed me up
the fucking ape could have killed me but he apologized and promisd me he would behave himself
when i thought about it later, i was like, holy shit, what the fuck did i just do???

these were not "good" cops, but they were nothing compared to these US trained guy who are now running thee cartels

oh, yeah, they train at ft, bragg, school of the americas
look it up if you think i am blowing smoke
very bad people come out of this palce

I realise that I have a past to break with--an accumulation of inertia, wrong, foolishness, rot, junk.  A great need of clarification, of mindfulness, or rather, of no mind.  A need to return to genuine practice, right effort.  Need to push on the great doubt.  Need for the spirit.  Hang on to the clear light.
           
Thomas Merton


       
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Cindy's switched sides.

Quote:On Thursday, March 19, 2009, at an anti-war rally held in Berkeley, Cindy Sheehan came up with the quote of the day which epitomizes the current situation: "Obama is just another war monger."

Jimmy - The old Hardcore Standard. :clap:
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