[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Did Roosevelt set a deadline for the great depression?If you think a time line is feasible you don't realize how fucked up things really are.We havent even restructured the banks yet and don't know how china which is our biggest backer will react to all this.Are you this naive?

You have got to be shitting me. This is serious business and is going to cost a ton of $$$. We deserve to know how long this is going to last and how much its going to cost. We can't just keep spending this kind of money forever. He should set some dates for how the recovery will take place.

[BIRD33]

You have got to be shitting me. This is serious business and is going to cost a ton of $$$. We deserve to know how long this is going to last and how much its going to cost. We can't just keep spending this kind of money forever. He should set some dates for how the recovery will take place.

Nobody knows asshole.How can anyone predict if china will invest in us after this?Do you get this isnt some minor hiccup and could last decades not years?He's being responsible and to be honest its like GW not setting a time table for Iraq.I don't agree with going there but you can't start something huge like that and pretend you know the day and hour it will be over.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Nobody knows asshole.How can anyone predict if china will invest in us after this?Do you get this isnt some minor hiccup and could last decades not years?He's being responsible and to be honest its like GW not setting a time table for Iraq.I don't agree with going there but you can't start something huge like that and pretend you know the day and hour it will be over.

Yeah, that's where i was headed with this. The democrats were so quick to yell (you included) about setting a date to end that war, and yet anyone with any sense at all knows you can't do that.

[BIRD33]

Yeah, that's where i was headed with this. The democrats were so quick to yell (you included) about setting a date to end that war, and yet anyone with any sense at all knows you can't do that.

Little bit different in some respects.We choose to go there and could have left whenever he wanted.Plus people were dying by the hundreds of thousands.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Little bit different in some respects.We choose to go there and could have left whenever he wanted.Plus people were dying by the hundreds of thousands.

Seems like pretty much the same thing to me. Just pointing out how biased politics are, regardless which side of the fence you are on.

[BIRD33]

One was a choice.Very different.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

One was a choice.Very different.

No difference once you are into something. No difference then a war being in the middle and people screaming for a timeline to end it and people screaming for a timeline to end a recession. Neither can be predicted and to attempt to would just be foolish.

So, you can spin it any way you want, but its the same thing.

[BIRD33]

What is the finish line for iraq?Its so subjective its up to one mans opinion on when to leave.He could have set a date and followed through if he wanted to.The economy is out of control and we have no say in when its over.Similar reasoning for not setting a date but two totally different situations, one which was totally controllable.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

What is the finish line for iraq?Its so subjective its up to one mans opinion on when to leave.He could have set a date and followed through if he wanted to.The economy is out of control and we have no say in when its over.Similar reasoning for not setting a date but two totally different situations, one which was totally controllable.

You think a war is "totally controllable"? And when i say a war, i mean a war that we plan to see to the end, not run off with our tails between our legs.

I guess using that logic, the government's involvement with trying to end the recession could end any time he wants, too. Unless he wants to see it to the end and not give up.

[BIRD33]

You think a war is "totally controllable"? And when i say a war, i mean a war that we plan to see to the end, not run off with our tails between our legs.

I guess using that logic, the government's involvement with trying to end the recession could end any time he wants, too. Unless he wants to see it to the end and not give up.

Controllable as in we set the goal posts and can leave whenever.We went there to take saddam out.We did years ago.When you say see it to the end what is your definition of the end because I've never heard it articulated.I did hear we'd be greeted as liberators so I'm kind of worried we got into something we didnt understand.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Controllable as in we set the goal posts and can leave whenever.We went there to take saddam out.We did years ago.When you say see it to the end what is your definition of the end because I've never heard it articulated.I did hear we'd be greeted as liberators so I'm kind of worried we got into something we didnt understand.

We didn't go there with the purpose of being greeted as liberators. That was a comment made on a talk show in reference to a prediction of how the war might unfold once it started. And that prediction pretty much came true when you saw the iraq's pulling down the statues and crowding the streets. However the insurgency and help from Iran quickly changed that. The plan was not to only "take out saddam", although that fits nicely in your brainwashed leftist propoganda. The plan was to remove a ruthless dictator and establish a democracy in the center of the middle east that was desperately needing it. And whose people had been brutalized and victimized for decades. And who's government had unprovoked attacks on neighboring countries for years. And who's government was sitting on a gold mine of oil revenue with which they could do endless harm if that was their intention.

So, as far as setting a "timeline", no one knew how long it would take to train the iraq's to arm themselves and defeat the insurgents, or how long it would take to establish a democratic government that was moving beyond tribal factions. I think we are seeing it now. At least the picture is much clearer now.

[BIRD33]

We didn't go there with the purpose of being greeted as liberators. That was a comment made on a talk show in reference to a prediction of how the war might unfold once it started. And that prediction pretty much came true when you saw the iraq's pulling down the statues and crowding the streets. However the insurgency and help from Iran quickly changed that. The plan was not to only "take out saddam", although that fits nicely in your brainwashed leftist propoganda. The plan was to remove a ruthless dictator and establish a democracy in the center of the middle east that was desperately needing it. And whose people had been brutalized and victimized for decades. And who's government had unprovoked attacks on neighboring countries for years. And who's government was sitting on a gold mine of oil revenue with which they could do endless harm if that was their intention.

So, as far as setting a "timeline", no one knew how long it would take to train the iraq's to arm themselves and defeat the insurgents, or how long it would take to establish a democratic government that was moving beyond tribal factions. I think we are seeing it now. At least the picture is much clearer now.

I don't think you've read the latest news on Iraq.When we leave it will be civil war again.Keep drinking the kool-aid.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I don't think you've read the latest news on Iraq.When we leave it will be civil war again.Keep drinking the kool-aid.

Yeah I read the news on Iraq nearly every day. Greatest political outcome than anyone could have ever predicted in their recent elections. The iraqi military is pretty much standing on its on in over taking the last of the insurgents. They just started the last known hideout of insurgents in Mosul a few days ago.

What are the leftist propogandists posting on their websites about it, chicken little?

[WoolyGoat]

Yeah I read the news on Iraq nearly every day. Greatest political outcome than anyone could have ever predicted in their recent elections. The iraqi military is pretty much standing on its on in over taking the last of the insurgents. They just started the last known hideout of insurgents in Mosul a few days ago.

What are the leftist propogandists posting on their websites about it, chicken little?

do you have the number for those websites?

[BIRD33]

Yeah I read the news on Iraq nearly every day. Greatest political outcome than anyone could have ever predicted in their recent elections. The iraqi military is pretty much standing on its on in over taking the last of the insurgents. They just started the last known hideout of insurgents in Mosul a few days ago.

What are the leftist propogandists posting on their websites about it, chicken little?

Scary.Read up on it a little closer.Look into the demographics of who voted and who didnt, who was marginalized.There will be a civil war.I was right going in and I'll be right going out.

[CT280]

how many of those leftist propogandists were circumcized?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Scary.Read up on it a little closer.Look into the demographics of who voted and who didnt, who was marginalized.There will be a civil war.I was right going in and I'll be right going out.

There would have been if we had listened to you turncoats and tucked our sacks and crawled home.

Now set a timeline for this stupid bailout and let us know when it will be over. Its ridiculous.

[BIRD33]

Just so you know we will still be "tucking our sacks and crawling home".We handed it to Iran.Nice plan you backed.

[Anhil8tor]

i'm pretty sure if Obama wanted the recession to end he could pull out a flute and play a tune and *poof* the recession would be gone.