[CT280]

circumcisionville.

[Banana]

here we go.

You can avoid this thread from this point forward. 's always a Yahoo Slurp! google somewhere to keep you entertained.

[CT280]

You can avoid this thread from this point forward. 's always a Yahoo Slurp! google somewhere to keep you entertained.

dont i know it.

[BIRD33]

I'm ready to come down from my pedestal if you are willing to agree that we were are talking about is flawed methodolgy used in the initial studies in Africa and acknowledge that the studies have been done on AA and Latinos only.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk...5120071204

Another one. This same article references three studies that reject male circumcision as a control method for HIV infection


http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/

Most relevant data is at the bottom.

There was also an article I found that compared the potential benefit with the numbers that would be required to achieve that. It was something like 1200 circumcisions would need to take place to possibily prevent one case of HIV infection. I'll try to find that too.

If you can show me how this study is more valid then the Johns Hopkins one I cited that would be helpful.Otherwise I'll stick with my position.

The CIRP website is totally biased.Its not a source its more like propaganda.

[Banana]

Not asking you to change you position. Merely to suggest the evidence is not iron clad.

The CIRP website itself may very well be totoally biased, but surely, you cannot discount their 100 or so references in this article.

[BIRD33]

I've never stated my position was the absolute correct one.Thats been you.

I can't and don't discount their references just like you can't discount but do anyway a study by one of the greatest medical facilities in the world.

[Pickle]

Bird touched mine :pig11:

[BIRD33]

Bird touched mine :pig11:

Thanks for the nonsensical post, pineschic.

[Banana]

I've never stated my position was the absolute correct one.Thats been you.

I can't and don't discount their references just like you can't discount but do anyway a study by one of the greatest medical facilities in the word.

This is why this argument always gets nowhere. I've never said that it's not valid. All I've said is that it's not a good enough reason to circ you child. You have said that one study alone is good enough to circ your child and you have discounted everything else.

I'm done with this discussion. I thought it could go somewhere, but you keep clinging to your errroneous view of my beliefs. I'd get further having this discussion with a post.

[Pickle]

Maybe if you fools would stay on topic, it would make sense.

[WoolyGoat]

This is why this argument always gets nowhere. I've never said that it's not valid. All I've said is that it's not a good enough reason to circ you child. You have said that one study alone is good enough to circ your child and you have discounted everything else.

I'm done with this discussion. I thought it could go somewhere, but you keep clinging to your errroneous view of my beliefs. I'd get further having this discussion with a post.

you know who you sound like?

[BIRD33]

This is why this argument always gets nowhere. I've never said that it's not valid. All I've said is that it's not a good enough reason to circ you child. You have said that one study alone is good enough to circ your child and you have discounted everything else.

I'm done with this discussion. I thought it could go somewhere, but you keep clinging to your errroneous view of my beliefs. I'd get further having this discussion with a post.

I believe I've posted more then one study that backs my position.

To be clear you are the one who brought this up again and your frustration level seems to rise when an independent thinker such as myself chooses not to believe everything a website dedicated to circumcision accidents wants me to believe.

Notice you called my view erroneous.That's very open minded of you.

Lets make a deal.I'll "cling" to my views while you sit there smug in the knowledge that you are right.Deal?

[Pickle]

Pretty sure you need to learn how to read.

P.S.

No one cares if you mutilate your one day son so he might not get AIDS. If you want you can cut off his entire penis and he'll never have sex! When he asks you why you made his genitals useless, you can tell him you did it for his own good and because one study told you to.

[Jimmy]

Good grief.

[Jimmy]

I hear May 1 is Choke a Bitch day.

[BIRD33]

Pretty sure you need to learn how to read.

P.S.

No one cares if you mutilate your one day son so he might not get AIDS. If you want you can cut off his entire penis and he'll never have sex! When he asks you why you made his genitals useless, you can tell him you did it for his own good and because one study told you to.

I did misread that.My sincerest apologies.

Its more than one study, pineschic north.

[BIRD33]

This is why this argument always gets nowhere. I've never said that it's not valid. All I've said is that it's not a good enough reason to circ you child. You have said that one study alone is good enough to circ your child and you have discounted everything else.

I'm done with this discussion. I thought it could go somewhere, but you keep clinging to your errroneous view of my beliefs. I'd get further having this discussion with a post.

Wooley goat was nice enough to PM me a picture he obtained of cucumber making the above post.Thanks goat!

[WoolyGoat]

now that I know you're a regular PMer, there's much more where that came from!

[BIRD33]

I'll include you in the regular whats for lunch? PM I send out daily for now on.