[MarkyGman]

I don't beleive in the death penalty.

I think there are worse things we can do to these psycho's.
I beleive more in some forms of torture for the rest of there lives.

Make there lives a living hell every single second, and make it so they WANT to die every second that they are alive.

[leucetios]

And this makes you different from them how?

[Banana]

Originally posted by MarkyGman@Jul 12 2004, 11:45 AM

Make there lives a living hell every single second, and make it so they WANT to die every second that they are alive.

Ya, but that never happens. Especially in Canadian prisons. I cheered when Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison. Here, they segregated Paul Bernardo from all the other inmates so he would't be killed.

[Neonranger]

They Started doing that here to so that they rapist and child molesters wouldn't be killed or harmed in general population.

[MarkyGman]

Ya i agree it never happens or will ever happen , but in my own little ideal world...thats what would happen.

I too cheered when Dahmer died in prison.

[Suicide Jim]

Originally posted by leucetios@Jul 12 2004, 01:35 PM
Just to play Devil's Advocate.  One of the reasons to keep them around is research.  We can learn a lot about the mind's of some of these people, and very little is known about some of them.  Sexual Sadists for example, tend to kill themselves when they're found.  We don't really understand them yet, and many of these guys are socially well accepted guys with families, and genius level IQs.  So why do they torture and kill, with emphasis on the torture part?

I haven't decided how I feel about this, but it is one part of the argument for keeping them in the system.

i agree with some who say that these people need to be tortured and i know full well that if part of may family wasd killed i would want the bastard killed slow. but these messed up people also need to be studied. some one like john wayne gacy, for instance, seemed to be a normal person on the out side. he was an active member of his comunity and was thought by many to be a good person but there was some thing in his past that festered in his mind for god knows how many years. at some point during his adult life some event trigered his full decay into a killer and sexual predetor. if we can study people like gacy then maybe we can learn to diagnos the early signs of a killer or at the very least make it easyer to profile and catch killers before they can strike again.

[leucetios]

Originally posted by Suicide Jim+Jul 12 2004, 11:13 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Suicide Jim @ Jul 12 2004, 11:13 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-leucetios@Jul 12 2004, 01:35 PM
Just to play Devil's Advocate.&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the reasons to keep them around is research.&nbsp; We can learn a lot about the mind's of some of these people, and very little is known about some of them.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sexual Sadists for example, tend to kill themselves when they're found.&nbsp; We don't really understand them yet, and many of these guys are socially well accepted guys with families, and genius level IQs.&nbsp; So why do they torture and kill, with emphasis on the torture part?

I haven't decided how I feel about this, but it is one part of the argument for keeping them in the system.

i agree with some who say that these people need to be tortured and i know full well that if part of may family wasd killed i would want the bastard killed slow. but these messed up people also need to be studied. some one like john wayne gacy, for instance, seemed to be a normal person on the out side. he was an active member of his comunity and was thought by many to be a good person but there was some thing in his past that festered in his mind for god knows how many years. at some point during his adult life some event trigered his full decay into a killer and sexual predetor. if we can study people like gacy then maybe we can learn to diagnos the early signs of a killer or at the very least make it easyer to profile and catch killers before they can strike again. [/b][/quote]

my disconnect comes with the torture part. I know if someone in my family were killed I would be angry and want revenge. But torturing a person, any person, is horrific and what keeps coming to mind is this: they killed and tortured a person for whatever reason they had and we find that atrocious, sanctioning the torture of a person (and making someone else do it - cause you likely won't be in the prison every day to torture them yourself) for vengeance takes us down to the same atrocious level.

[Velvet]

My two cents .. Personally I would want the person to rot in hell . Every single day of there lives I would want them to think about what they had done . Just going to jail isnt enough but killing them is to easy . Doing hard time is just sitting in your cell watching tv . What kind of hard time is that . Segregating them from other prisoners not only saves there lives but it also saves the lives of the ones who by some bad luck are in there for not paying there traffic tickets and they deserve to be away from that . I dont truely know the answer about what they should be made to do for punnishment but it shouldnt be living the life of riley like they do now . Hell I think they live better than half the population right now .

[Bonkyboy]

Bonky sez "burn 'em."

I remember seeing a video interview with Richard Speck, who killed a bunch of nurses in the early 60s. He had used funds to get BREAST IMPLANTS while sentenced to life in prison. The video also showed him snorting cocaine with another prisoner and then having sex together. He even made some comment that if the people could see how much fun he was having in prison, they'd shit.

Most of you aren't old enough to remember what Richard Speck had done, but trust me: that fucker was evil to the core. He set a new standard in serial killing.

Didn't seem like he was sitting there suffering over what he had done. He eventually was killed, but this was just a few years ago.

Turn the burner on "high."