[Vitamin E]

Go Heels.

[BIRD33]

This sets up perfect for Duke to win the ACC tourney.

[Anhil8tor]

Go Heels.

conference tourney > regular season championship


If duke runs the tourney they'll get a 1 seed.

[Vitamin E]

[BIRD33]

Shelden Williams is engaged to Tennesee womens basketball star Candace Parker.

Duke played its worst game of the season and still almost won.I have a feeling Nelson will score more than 6 pts in their next meeting.Singler played well against Hanseborough.Duke by 10 in the ACC title game.

[WoolyGoat]

who's your all-ACC first and second team?

[cLaY]

Shelden Williams is engaged to Tennesee womens basketball star Candace Parker.

Duke played its worst game of the season and still almost won.I have a feeling Nelson will score more than 6 pts in their next meeting.Singler played well against Hanseborough.Duke by 10 in the ACC title game.

how crazy is that? ugliest dude in college basketball history marries one of the hottest chicks in college basketball history?

i disagree. miami/wake was their worst two.

pic of century...

[cLaY]

who's your all-ACC first and second team?

Rice
Paulus
Danny Green
Hansborough

someone else

[BIRD33]

how crazy is that? ugliest dude in college basketball history marries one of the hottest chicks in college basketball history?

i disagree. miami/wake was their worst two.

pic of century...

Is she hot?I remember her as a normal looking black chick?You know Sheldens packing a 13" alabama black snake.

This pic is worse.






Miami might have been worse.No excuse losing to a big east school.Still this is setting up perfect for Duke.All they need is henderson and Nelson to get 15-20 and they blow out UNC.

[cLaY]

I hate UNC almost as much as Duke, but I love Danny Green.

Okay, maybe I was exagerating...but any decent chick is out of Shel-Dome's league.

How can anything be "set up" for Duke? If I remember right fucking NC State won their way into the tournament last year with an ACC tourney win. That conference is so flakey anything could happen.

[BIRD33]

I hate UNC almost as much as Duke, but I love Danny Green.

Okay, maybe I was exagerating...but any decent chick is out of Shel-Dome's league.

How can anything be "set up" for Duke? If I remember right fucking NC State won their way into the tournament last year with an ACC tourney win. That conference is so flakey anything could happen.

I looked her up,she pretty good looking for a tall chick.Their kids are going to be monsters.

The conference is so flaky Dukes won the ACC tourney every year this decade except last year and 2004.Thats domination.

[BIRD33]

[SIZE="3"]Counting down the most prestigious programs since 1984-85[/SIZE]


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739


So, to rank the most consistent, most prestigious programs since 1984-85, we let the numbers do the talking.



• National title … 25
• Title game loss … 20
• National semifinal loss … 15
• Elite Eight loss … 10
• Best W-L record in conference's regular season … 5
• 30-plus wins in a season … 5
• Sweet 16 loss … 5
• Conference tournament title … 3
• AP first-team All-American … 3
• Losing in NCAA second round … 3
• Player in Top 10 of NBA draft … 2
• NCAA first-round win as a 12-16 seed … 2
• NIT title … 2
• AP second-team All-American … 2
• 20-29 wins in a season … 1
• NCAA tournament berth … 1
• Postseason NIT berth … 1
• AP third-team All-American … 1
• NCAA first-round loss to a 12-16 seed … -2
• Losing season … -3
• Ban from NCAA tournament … -3
>> Minimum 15 seasons in Division I
** Ties are broken by overall winning percentage since the 1984-85 season
^^ Teams are listed with their current conferences
!! In conferences without postseason tournament champions, the points were awarded to the regular-season champ.




2. NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS, ACC
Positives: 16 conference titles (9 regular-season, 7 tourney); 6 30-win seasons; 23 postseasons (22 NCAA, 1 NIT); 9 No. 1 seeds; 16 Sweet 16s; 8 Final Fours; 1993 and 2005 national titles; 61 NCAA tourney wins; 19 All-Americans; 11 NBA top-10 picks
Negatives: 1 losing season (8-20 in 2001-02); lost to 14th-seeded Weber State in 1999
Total points: 454
Did you know? A stat-sheet stuffer in every category, including NIT appearances and losing seasons. Along with Kansas, Kentucky, Connecticut and Florida, the Tar Heels have won two national titles. They also have been a No. 1 seed nine times and have six 30-win seasons. Very impressive, but still not as impressive as their big rival eight miles down the road.





1. DUKE BLUE DEVILS, ACC
Positives (with overall ranking):
• 21 conference titles (11 regular-season, 10 tourney): T-1st (with Arizona)
• 21 20-win seasons: T-3rd
• 8 30-win seasons: T-1st (with Kansas)
• 23 NCAA tournament berths: T-2nd
• 10 No. 1 seeds: 1st
• 17 Sweet 16s: 1st
• 10 Final Fours: 1st
• 3 national championships (1991, 1992, 2001): 1st
• 69 NCAA tournament wins: 1st
• 12 first team All-Americans: 1st
• 25 All-Americans: 1st
• 11 NBA top-10 picks: T-1st (with North Carolina)
Negatives: 1 losing season (13-18 in 1994-95)
Total points: 538 (84 points more than No. 2 UNC)
Did you know? By any measure of success, Duke is king of the hill in college basketball in the 64-team era of the NCAA tournament. Besides the three national titles, Duke is No. 1 among all basketball programs with 69 NCAA tournament wins, 12 first team All-Americans, 11 top-10 NBA picks, 10 No. 1 seeds and seven title game appearances. An easy selection in any format for No. 1.

[cLaY]

Kansas was 4 points off from being number 2.

Now ESPN should rank the most prestigious of all time.

[cLaY]

Nice little read, Bird33:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/wr...ml?eref=T1

[BIRD33]

One morning when he was still coaching at KU, Roy Williams opened his desk drawer and showed me a large collection of chocolate candy he keeps there during the season but never eats. It's one of the ways he keeps himself disciplined and focused.

Roy is such an odd dude.

[cLaY]

check it out Bird:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739

I guess ESPN mis-calculated or something on the number of conference championships KU had and the number of All-Americans UNC had. They moved KU up ahead of UNC.

[quint]

too many teams i do not like in the top 10.

[BIRD33]

Since 83,84 I don't think there is a question that UNC has had the stronger program than KU.When you factor in Pro's I think a little bonus should go to UNC for producing possibly the greatest player of all time.UNC has just been a factor in more seasons in the last 25 years.KU was nonexisistent at stretches.

On an unrelated note I keep a desk drawer full of black dildo's in my office that I never touch just to keep me disciplined.

[Anhil8tor]

I hope coach K isn't hurting the program by winning a gold medal for the US.

[BIRD33]

The guys a patriot.If not him, who?Roy is busy testing his resolve with OHenry bars.I read a good article about K figuring out the olympic style of basketball.More 3 point shooters seems to be the formula.If there was a platinum medal K would win it.