[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

6 over. Most of the pack is around Even to +2 or +3. Mickelson is even.

Colin Montogmerie is -1 and David Howell looks to be finishing up -2.

[BIRD33]

6 over will win it probably.He's fine as long as he's close to par tommorow.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

6 over will win it probably.He's fine as long as he's close to par tommorow.

Yeah, I was just looking at the leaderboard. It looks to me that if a guy averages 2 over per round, they could win. This might be one with someone that is 6 to 8 over in the end.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I heard the other day that one of the par 4's is 514 yards long. Can you imagine getting a 300 yard drive and still being 214 out on a par 4? I'd be hitting 5 wood from 214.

[BIRD33]

I heard the other day that one of the par 4's is 514 yards long. Can you imagine getting a 300 yard drive and still being 214 out on a par 4? I'd be hitting 5 wood from 214.

I'd need to tee it up twice.Theres a 15 year old 100 lbs boy from Hawaii that won his qualifying event (against adults) and is playing in the Open.That drives me nuts.He shot +11 today, same as Nick Price.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

6 over will win it probably.He's fine as long as he's close to par tommorow.

He's out. Another 6 over today. First time he's missed a cut in a Major.

[BIRD33]

Tough course.David Duval went -3 today.

[SanDog]

He's out. Another 6 over today. First time he's missed a cut in a Major.

I really thought that Karma would be on his side with this one. I don't even bother watching the tournaments when he is not playing on the weekend. Unless Hefty gets in the mix, then I will tune in.

[BIRD33]

I like the Open the best.The course is awesome.Watching them struggle is hilarious.

[SanDog]

I like the Open the best.The course is awesome.Watching them struggle is hilarious.

I agree. It is not real golf, but it is fun to watch.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Tom's is -3 after 10. Mickelson is +2 after 13.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I like the Open the best.The course is awesome.Watching them struggle is hilarious.

I agree, but where do they get these courses in this kind of shape? I mean, no one would play these places during the rest of the year.

I was at Pinehurst about 10 or more years ago and they had one of the courses closed to get it ready for the US open. The Open wasn't going to be there for two more years! And they had already closed it to get it ready.

[BIRD33]

I agree. It is not real golf, but it is fun to watch.

I think it's the most real golf out there.

[SanDog]

I agree, but where do they get these courses in this kind of shape? I mean, no one would play these places during the rest of the year.

I was at Pinehurst about 10 or more years ago and they had one of the courses closed to get it ready for the US open. The Open wasn't going to be there for two more years! And they had already closed it to get it ready.

We have hte '08 here at Torrey Pines. What they have done to the course to prepare is astounding. They will keep the rough short up until the open then grow it out.

The reason this course is so hard are the greens. They are something like +12, most course run a +4 if they are difficult.

[BIRD33]

I agree, but where do they get these courses in this kind of shape? I mean, no one would play these places during the rest of the year.

I was at Pinehurst about 10 or more years ago and they had one of the courses closed to get it ready for the US open. The Open wasn't going to be there for two more years! And they had already closed it to get it ready.

Members don't care.Having the tourney there is like their christmas.I'm playing Pinehurst #2 in September,its gonna be ugly.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Members don't care.Having the tourney there is like their christmas.I'm playing Pinehurst #2 in September,its gonna be ugly.

I think that's the one that was closed. Have you been there? Its cool when you drive up to the clubhouse. They have a croquet grass court out front and you have to be dressed in all white to play. It looks like the 1800's.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

We have hte '08 here at Torrey Pines. What they have done to the course to prepare is astounding. They will keep the rough short up until the open then grow it out.

The reason this course is so hard are the greens. They are something like +12, most course run a +4 if they are difficult.

I played in a pro am for the Byron Nelson one time and the greens were rated at 10 to 11 on the stemp (sp?). You cannot believe how hard that is to putt. If you are putting downhill, if you even touch the ball you hit it too hard. If you made a two put on any green it was like having sex with Angelina Jolie.

[BIRD33]

I think that's the one that was closed. Have you been there? Its cool when you drive up to the clubhouse. They have a croquet grass court out front and you have to be dressed in all white to play. It looks like the 1800's.

Never been there.#2 is the one that had the open 2 or 3 years back.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Never been there.#2 is the one that had the open 2 or 3 years back.

Yeah. That is definitely the one to play. I think we played #8.