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Gulf Oil Leak

BIRD33 Wrote:If the offers would have done more harm then good they werent accepted.Thats not us turning down help.Help that does harm is not help.Also we've accepted 5 which is not what you claimed.

I was simply quoting Obama's spokesman for the State Department. Directly Quoting him. Not Sarah Palin. I have no idea how you think you can accuse me of "spinning" or making up shit, when I simply quoted a direct quote from someone in Obama's administration.

If we had accepted help from 5 countries he should have said we had. But he didn't. As you can hear for yourself coming right out of his mouth.

All you have to do is say "damn dude, you are right. I just assumed you were like the other dunderheads that I argue with. Because we always get our facts from crazy left wing or right wing sources and then debunk each other and confuse things. I'm sorry."

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He ran his whole campaign on the fact that this country had become too separate from the world. Too big and tough. Not a team player. We had lost all of these alliances that were so strong just a few years ago. blah blah blah.

And then what does he do?
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I was simply quoting Obama's spokesman for the State Department. Directly Quoting him. Not Sarah Palin. I have no idea how you think you can accuse me of "spinning" or making up shit, when I simply quoted a direct quote from someone in Obama's administration.

If we had accepted help from 5 countries he should have said we had. But he didn't. As you can hear for yourself coming right out of his mouth.

All you have to do is say "damn dude, you are right. I just assumed you were like the other dunderheads that I argue with. Because we always get our facts from crazy left wing or right wing sources and then debunk each other and confuse things. I'm sorry."

Thanks.

That speech where you quote him saying two countries was given on May 26th.Its up to five now.I'm sorry they didnt go back in time and re do that speech for you.Can we deal with facts as they stand today?Hilarious.

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BIRD33 Wrote:That speech where you quote him saying two countries was given on May 26th.Its up to five now.I'm sorry they didnt go back in time and re do that speech for you.Can we deal with facts as they stand today?Hilarious.

Where is the part where you apologize for thinking I quoted Sarah Palin and that the "17 countries offered help" was all made up propoganda bullshit?
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:He ran his whole campaign on the fact that this country had become too separate from the world. Too big and tough. Not a team player. We had lost all of these alliances that were so strong just a few years ago. blah blah blah.

And then what does he do?

What we've done is accepted all help that would work.Rejected help that wouldnt have worked.Take the French for example.The "help" they offered would have done more damage then good to the environment because of a chemical they use to disperse oil.Is it closed minded to reject that "help" then?Hell no it would have made the situation worse.Doesnt that make sense?

I've got a retarded neighbor that saw me changing a flat and offered to help.I said no.If he was a mechanic and not retarded I would have said yes.Is it a real leap to understand why?

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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Where is the part where you apologize for thinking I quoted Sarah Palin and that the "17 countries offered help" was all made up propoganda bullshit?

You and sarah palin got it wrong.We arent rejecting countries help for no reason.Sorry.

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BIRD33 Wrote:You and sarah palin got it wrong.We arent rejecting countries help for no reason.Sorry.

LMFAO. Keep trying. Its going to be hilarious watching you try to spin this for the next several years.
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Has that great underwater expert James Cameron come up with any big plans yet?

I was convinced that was a solid plan getting him involved.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:LMFAO. Keep trying. Its going to be hilarious watching you try to spin this for the next several years.

Spin what?That BP didnt ruin the Gulf?

Keep hoping Obama fails to make your backing of the worse president of all time look less pathetic.

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BIRD33 Wrote:Spin what?That BP didnt ruin the Gulf?

Keep hoping Obama fails to make your backing of the worse president of all time look less pathetic.

it would be fun to post all of the youtube videos of Obama during his campaign talking about the "inexcusably slow response time by the Bush administration and lack of preparation and leadership, etc.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:it would be fun to post all of the youtube videos of Obama during his campaign talking about the "inexcusably slow response time by the Bush administration and lack of preparation and leadership, etc.

It would be fun and inaccurate!

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[youtube]I5KJFfrMB3M[/youtube]

He must feel like a complete idiot.
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How much money did BP save? about $5 million.


The Chornicle's Loren Steffy wrote on Sunday that the steps BP may have taken to cut costs on the now-leaking Macondo oil well in the Gulf of Mexico saved it about $5 million. The tradeoff?

Eleven people are dead, the Gulf is despoiled, livelihoods along its coast area in jeopardy, beaches are tarred and even the oil industry itself now finds itself shut out of its most promising area for new exploration.

Steffy reached the $5 million figure by asking a half-dozen independent oil industry experts to estimate what steps the company skipped/avoided and how much time it saved them. He and his consultants used a rough estimate of about $1 million per day to lease the rig and contractors and other equipment. Steffy didn't have space in his column to break out all the numbers but shared them with us.

According to Steffy's experts, the rough cost is reached as follows:

Run and cement liner: 36 hours.

Set liner packoff and circulate out: 18 hours

Pull out of hole with liner setting tools: 12 hours

Run in hole with 12¼ cleanout assembly and clean out cement to top of liner: 18

Pull out of hole with 12¼ assembly: 12 hours

Run in hole with 8½ assembly to cleanout inside liner: 18 hours

Pull out of hole with 8½ assembly: 12 hours

Total = 4.75 days at $1mm/day = $4.75mm


The savings may have been even larger if one takes into account BP didn't install the lockout ring for the final production string. Doing that would add another 24 to 36 hours, or $1 million to $1.5 million.


http://blogs.chron.com/newswatchenergy/a...money.html

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I was thinking about this after my softball game (3-4 3 RS) and I think I'm going to fuck my third baseman's 24 year old daughter.She's kind of into me and well you know, kids for real.Regarding this topic I think when you break it down by species saving 5 million was the right call.Dolphins have maybe given me about $1300 worth of enjoyment in my lifetime.Flipper, went to Busch Gardens once as a kid but don't really remember much and that sega game back in the 90's.Thats it.

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so the Oil Leak Cap V. 4.2 is now in place and they are testing it today. Apparently if the pressure is high enough, then they know it worked, if the pressure is too low then they either have a leak in the cap or the oil and gas are leaking out under the sea floor somewhere else and they will have to remove it.

They say the relief well is within just a few feet of intersecting with the blown out well. But they also say that it won't be finished until mid August.

Why is no one saying "you know what? you are a few feet away and its not even mid July. wtf is going to take another month"?
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Do you want one example of something that he should have done that he did not do soon enough? How about waiting until it was too late to authorize Governor Jindal's request to build berms to protect Louisiana's wetlands?

How about not only his refusal to accept the dozens of offers of help from nations around the world, but his failure to put together a coalition of nations to help protect our shores. I think an easier question to pose and to answer would be "what the fuck is he doing"


Does it bother you that you spent the last two pages being totally wrong?The video I posted today backs up what I've been saying.I'm just curious when my apology is coming.

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BIRD33 Wrote:Does it bother you that you spent the last two pages being totally wrong?The video I posted today backs up what I've been saying.I'm just curious when my apology is coming.

i have no idea what you are talking about.
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Anhil8tor Wrote:Obamas 9/11?

No way!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/opinio...edman.html

These were the days.That oil spill that was cleaned up was very similar to the day 3000 americans were killed in New York.How will Obama ever recover?Wait what?You say he handled it pretty well and the crisis is over and forgotten?Well its still like 9\11, alright.


I kind of remember Obama being criticized for not following the 7\11 owner\governor of your states brilliant idea.

Panel: Jindal sand berm project was a colossal waste of time and money


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout...-and-money

Obama you dumb socialist bastard you.

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Well this was frightening.Please never ask me to believe an oil company has anyone's interest in mind but themselves.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/us/26s...=1&_r=3&hp

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