[BIRD33]

yeah, you know exactly what I'm saying. The backseat driver finally got the wheel for the first time. And now its not as easy as it looked from back there. Obama, meet the real world.

I swear to god I have no idea what you're talking about and you've not given me one solid thing to go on.Most of this I fret has to do with gut feelings for you.

[snarg]

yeah, you know exactly what I'm saying. The backseat driver finally got the wheel for the first time. And now its not as easy as it looked from back there. Obama, meet the real world.

tweety is pretty much got the blinders on
there have been some major failures
i am still hopeful and think that overall, aside from disasters natural and man-made, the situation is getting better

[BIRD33]

#1 Snargs just pissed I reminded him he was driving a forklift at 50.

#2 Read this flumper.It will blow your brain up.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/75402/please-tel...cowboy-now

[snarg]

#1 Snargs just pissed I reminded him he was driving a forklift at 50.

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not at all, tweetster, you have turned into a one trick pony
you pull this out every time i am kicking your ass
it's a little embarrassing............for you, friend

time for some new material

#2 Read this flumper.It will blow your brain up.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/75402/please-tel...cowboy-now

i read that blog, bird, i just had a feeling about this one

i must say it is refreshing to have an intelligent president
i still love him, but it is gonna get very hard for him
he has made some mistakes in reading the zeitgeist
americans are just too stupid as a society

[BIRD33]

It is embarrassing to know a guy who drove a forklift at 50.Thank you for feeling my pain.

[BIRD33]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_gulf_oil_spill

"I don't know what people expected the president to do exactly, if they want him to go out there and wash pelicans," Keith Jones said. "He's the president. He's not someone who cleans beaches. It's important for us Louisianans to know that we have his support and I think he's communicated that."

This guy actually lost his son in the rig explosion.That feeling thats coming over some of you is shame.

[snarg]

It is embarrassing to know a guy who drove a forklift at 50.Thank you for feeling my pain.

you don't know me, stop dreaming
if you did you would feel honored to be my friend

thank the lord i don't have to deal with drones who punch the clock every day

like i said, come yp with some new material, this stuff is pretty stale

[BIRD33]

When a guy starts claiming he's a real smart guy I'll keep reminding him he drove a forklift at 50, thanks.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I think I heard that Obama is going to "address the nation" about the gulf oil disaster this week.

[BIRD33]

WHY HASN'T HE DONE THIS SOONER?!?!I NEED TO BE TALKED TO!!

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Maybe he can explain to us why bush not being able to hold the levees in place is different than him not being able to plug an oil leak.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

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[BIRD33]

Maybe he can explain to us why bush not being able to hold the levees in place is different than him not being able to plug an oil leak.

I'm unaware of the army corp of engineer reports that say we couldnt handle a leak to an oil rig.The only reason that I bring that up is because we had those reports on the levee's failing way before katrina happened.Years before.Again totally apples for apples!If you're a fucking idiot.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I just heard that BP had some kind of a fuckup with a collision under water at the well head and had to remove the containment cap.

so, right now the oil gusher is flowing full throttle into the gulf again with no collection going on. They don't know how long it will take to fix the problem.

[IBHUNG]

I just heard that BP had some kind of a fuckup with a collision under water at the well head and had to remove the containment cap.

so, right now the oil gusher is flowing full throttle into the gulf again with no collection going on. They don't know how long it will take to fix the problem.

I guess with BP inadequacies, we can be thankful that Obama and his diligent administration has been on top of this from Day 1. Maybe he can strong arm more money to resolve todays issues.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I guess with BP inadequacies, we can be thankful that Obama and his diligent administration has been on top of this from Day 1. Maybe he can strong arm more money to resolve todays issues.

what a clusterfuck this has all been. I sure hope plan G (or is it H now?) works in August. Because I don't think they have a plan J yet. Maybe a month or two after the relief wells fail to work we can have another TV show where he tells us this is our fault for being dependent on oil.

[BIRD33]

Drill baby, drill!

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Here's a view of the oil slick from space. Taken May 24th though. So its a month old.

[BIRD33]

How pissed is florida in all of this.They depend on tourism as the states lifeblood and don't allow offshore drilling because of situations like this.I read that Crist is gaining in the polls for the governor race because his opponent is for off shore drilling.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Okay, this is very disturbing. Its kind of a long read, so just skim through it.

http://www.thelibertyblog.net/2010/0...exico-sea.html


Scientists Warn Gulf Of Mexico Sea Floor Fractured “Beyond Repair”

A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.

Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.

BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 [photo 2nd left] which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft).

According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.

Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters.

However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC news service “Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.”

Though not directly stated in Sagalevich’s report, Russian scientists findings on the true state of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster are beyond doubt being leaked to his longtime friend, and former US President George W. Bush’s top energy advisor Matthew Simmons, who US media reports state has openly said: “Matthew Simmons is sticking by his story that there's another giant leak in the Gulf of Mexico blowing massive amounts of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. On CNBC's Fast Money, he says he'd be surprised if BP lasted this summer, saying this is disaster is entirely BP's fault.”

As a prominent oil-industry insider, and one of the World's leading experts on peak oil, Simmons further warns that the US has only two options, “let the well run dry (taking 30 years, and probably ruining the Atlantic ocean) or nuking the well.”

Obama’s government, on the other hand, has stated that a nuclear option for ending this catastrophe is not being discussed, but which brings him into conflict with both Russian and American experts advocating such an extreme measure before all is lost, and as we can read as reported by Britain’s Telegraph News Service:

“The former Soviet Union (U.S.S.R.) used nuclear weapons on five separate occasions between 1966 and 1981 to successfully cap blown-out gas and oil surface wells (there was also one attempt that failed), which have been documented in a U.S. Department of Energy report on the U.S.S.R.'s peaceful uses of nuclear explosions.

Russia is now urging the United States to consider doing the same. Komsomoloskaya Pravda, the best-selling Russian daily newspaper, asserts that although based on Soviet experience there's a one-in-five chance a nuke might not seal the well, it's "a gamble the Americans could certainly risk."

Reportedly, the U.S.S.R. developed special nuclear devices explicitly for closing blown-out gas wells, theorizing that the blast from a nuclear detonation would plug any hole within 25 to 50 meters, depending on the device's power. Much as I had idly imagined, massive explosions can be employed to collapse a runaway well on itself, thus plugging, or at least substantially stanching, the flow of oil.

“Seafloor nuclear detonation is starting to sound surprisingly feasible and appropriate," University of Texas at Austin mechanical engineer Michael E. Webber is quoted observing, while Columbia University visiting scholar on nuclear policy and former naval officer Christopher Brownfield wrote in the Daily Beast: "We should have demolished this well with explosives over a month ago. And yet we watch in excruciating suspense while BP fumbles through plan after plan to recover its oil and cover its asset.”

As to the reason for Obama’s government refusing to consider nuking this oil well, Sagalevich states in this report that the American’s “main concern” is not the environmental catastrophe this disaster is causing, but rather what the impact of using a nuclear weapon to stop this leak would have on the continued production of oil from the Gulf of Mexico, and which in an energy starved World remains the Planet’s only oil producing region able to increase its production.

wow