[BIRD33]

He can't put her on the ticket after the assasination comments.2012 is what this is all about.Its truely unbelievable she's doing this.It really shows that she's not concerned about the country but just with power.I'm officially disgusted by her and I was prepared to vote for her less than a year ago.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

What kinds of things can she do to ruin Obama's chances?

[leeman]

What kinds of things can she do to ruin Obama's chances?

Rreinstate slavery ....????



I just posted this reply since this thread has allmost 600 post and none from me.

[BIRD33]

She can hurt him by not getting her supporters to vote for him obviously.

I think 30% of people voting for hillary arent voting for a black guy.She needs to help him get the women vote.

She has already come out and said her and Mccain are the only two capable candidates to be president so she's going to have to backtrack on that.

I don't think she can sink him but can make life difficult.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I heard that Bill Clinton spent the week-end crying about a conspiracy that is trying to deny his wife the election that she is winning by the popular vote. I seriously think they have both lost their friggin minds.

[BIRD33]

Rreinstate slavery ....????



I just posted this reply since this thread has allmost 600 post and none from me.

It was a safe haven.

[BIRD33]

I heard that Bill Clinton spent the week-end crying about a conspiracy that is trying to deny his wife the election that she is winning by the popular vote. I seriously think they have both lost their friggin minds.

They are lawyers.They are using the only explanation left regardless if it doesnt make sense as to how they all agreed to the election rules.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

They are lawyers.They are using the only explanation left regardless if it doesnt make sense as to how they all agreed to the election rules.

You would seriously have to be nearly brain dead to be so stupid as to allow her to count 3 million votes from a state where Obama wasn't even a choice on the ballot. I can't imagine a voter that wouldn't be offended that they would be presumed to be so stupid as to fall for that.

Can't someone with some intelligence within the democratic party, just get on the news or something and explain that she has lost her mind. And that all this talk about "winning the popular vote" is total bullshit.

[BIRD33]

You would seriously have to be nearly brain dead to be so stupid as to allow her to count 3 million votes from a state where Obama wasn't even a choice on the ballot. I can't imagine a voter that wouldn't be offended that they would be presumed to be so stupid as to fall for that.

Can't someone with some intelligence within the democratic party, just get on the news or something and explain that she has lost her mind. And that all this talk about "winning the popular vote" is total bullshit.

I agree someone needs to stand up and say stop trying to bullshit us.Obama can't do it because it would look like he's bullying her and it really isnt his place since he's her opponent.Dean should say something.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I agree someone needs to stand up and say stop trying to bullshit us.Obama can't do it because it would look like he's bullying her and it really isnt his place since he's her opponent.Dean should say something.

Exactly. I agree that Obama can't do it, and it all just makes him look like the bigger man by staying out of it and moving on to "selecting a VP", planning for a fall campaign, etc.

But someone, like Howard Dean, just needs to come out and say, "Hillary, shut the fuck up. You can continue your campaign as long as you want to. But stop with the lies about how you are winning the popular vote. You are not winning anything right now. And the only conspiracy out there are the voters not voting for you."

[who]

[snarg]

Dumb - Religious
Oh so smart - Not religious
Enlightened - Religious.

thank you, jimmy
or nana
whatevah

[BIRD33]

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This is flumpers perfect woman.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

She makes some good points.

[BIRD33]

Supposedly she's out tomorrow.She's told her advance team that they won't be needed after then.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Well after watching the events unfold last night, I think I can safely say now that its:

Obama/Clinton '08. She's going to be the VP choice and I don't think Obama can do anything about it. No matter who he wants to pick.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I think that the most hilarious thing I saw last night was after Obama's speech. And he gave a great speech, I thought.

Then they cut to a recording of McCain's speech. Holy shit! He looked like he had been embalmed. McCain is going to get embarrassed in this election.

[Bill]

Well after watching the events unfold last night, I think I can safely say now that its:

Obama/Clinton '08. She's going to be the VP choice and I don't think Obama can do anything about it. No matter who he wants to pick.

I told you so.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I told you so.

Yeah, I didn't see that one coming. And what's funny about it, was that I was thnking about it from Obama's perspective. I still don't think he would want her on the ticket, and certainly doesn't need Bill "backseat" driving in the fall and for 4 years in the white house.

Obama: Okay, I'm going to set up a summit meeting with Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and Iran....

Bill: :eyeroll: Um. Mr. President? I'm not saying that you shouldn't do that, but here's what I would have done.

Obama: (oh fuck, not again).

But, as I was watching her talk last night, it was so friggin obvious. She asked all 18 million of "her" voters to log into her website and tell her what to do. Tell her what to do? There is only one thing she is fishing for. If even half of them log in and say "Be our next vice-president". Then she is going to come back out and say, "The people have spoken. I have to do this."

And at that point, wtf can obama do? He either turns his back on nearly half of his party or has to do it.

Kennedy had to nearly be forced to take LBJ to be his running mate. They fucking hated each other. Kennedy was the junior senator and LBJ was the guy with all of the experience. Sam Rayburn made him take LBJ.

Also, if you think about it. Pelosi is speaker of the House. Clinton would be president of the Senate. That in itself would be pretty fucking historic. And it puts Clinton at the top of the "Women Food Chain". I don't think she's ever liked the fact that Pelosi is now the most powerful woman in America.

[BIRD33]

Since when does losing a 30 point lead get you any rewards?

She's overplayed her hand.I heard Obamas is going to get out of having her as vp by offering it to her but during the vetting process he will demand all the financial records for her and bill that she's refused to hand over.There was without a doubt some shady characters paying bill clinton to make a speech or whatever for them to accumulate 180 million.As the nominee she can hide behind the its nobodies business defense but as the vp she's subject to his wishes and any president would be crazy to just trust his vp to be on the up and up.Its just good business.


Webb will be VP.