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Binladen offers peace in europe
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'Bin Laden' offers Europe truce
Thursday, April 15, 2004 Posted: 3:37 AM EDT (0737 GMT)



The CIA said the speaker was "likely" the voice of bin Laden.

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(CNN) -- Arabic language TV network Al-Arabiya has aired what it says is an audio tape from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, in which he threatens revenge on America, but offers a truce to European states.

CNN experts who have listened to the tape say that the speaker sounds like bin Laden but there is no way for CNN to independently confirm the speaker's identity.

Dubai-based Al-Arabiya declined to say how it received the tape, but the speaker referred to events that occurred less than a month ago.

In the audio tape, the speaker threatens revenge on the United States for the death of Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, who was killed March 22 in an Israeli targeted helicopter attack in Gaza City.

He also refers to the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States and the March 11, 2004 Madrid train bombings as examples of actions al Qaeda has taken in response to attacks on Muslims.

He offers a "truce" or "non-aggression" to any European country that stops "attacking Muslims," but excludes the United States from any such deal.

The speaker gives a three-month deadline, starting April 15, for countries to stop attacking Muslims. He mentions Iraq but not in the specific context of the U.S.-led war.

The last tape believed to have been recorded by bin Laden aired in January on Qatar-based Arabic language network, Al Jazeera.

The CIA said the speaker was "likely" the voice of bin Laden, who describes the U.S. involvement in Iraq as the beginning of an occupation of Persian Gulf states for their oil. The tape also made other references to recent events.

On March 25, Al Jazeera aired a tape believed to be from bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, calling on Pakistanis to overthrow President Pervez Musharraf
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#2

He did offer a truce a year or so ago to the U.S..... provided we all convert to his religion.... Rolleyes uh-huh!!!! Rolleyes
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#3

I think the mans starting to worry and needs a place to hide hense the offer ..
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#4

Quote:Originally posted by velvet@Apr 15 2004, 12:22 PM
I think the mans starting to worry and needs a place to hide hense the offer ..
The U.S. must be getting close.... or these 9-11 hearings have him scared.



It seems to be coming out in the 9-11 hearings that Bin Laudin wasn't brilliant, but those running things in the U.S were idiots. Rolleyes Wonder who will end up with the final blame??? Rolleyes
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#5

Very good point there hun . Ive been hearing abit about it here and we have heard that it was known before it happened but no one seemd to believe it . Not the way to keep a cvountry safe thats for sure .
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#6

Quote:Originally posted by velvet@Apr 15 2004, 12:35 PM
Very good point there hun . Ive been hearing abit about it here and we have heard that it was known before it happened but no one seemd to believe it . Not the way to keep a cvountry safe thats for sure .
Esepcially when the 'Muslum mastermind' borrow ideas out of Tom Clancey novels.... who's next? Clive Cussler, Robert Ludlum????
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#7

Very scary thoughts there halfasleep . I hope we have seen the last of that type of tradgedy .
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#8

Quote:Originally posted by velvet@Apr 15 2004, 12:41 PM
Very scary thoughts there halfasleep . I hope we have seen the last of that type of tradgedy .
The U.S. is getting a little wiser.... recently they took steps to protect New York harbor from any sort of 'runaway' oil tanker..... the climax from a Clive Cussler Dirk Pitt Novel!!!

Those spy novels with their ideas 'just one step out of reality' are the most scary... someone like a Bin Lauden will copy them. What's worst is we'll end up with heavy censorship or they'll be taken off the market to 'protect ourselves'!
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#9

Im glad to hear that .. I think the sea is the most likely way to harm people now as everyone is watching the air and trains and such . Lets just hope the man gets caught beofre he can hurt anymore Smile
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#10

It will be interesting to see how europe reacts to the offer. I wonder if they will abandon us?
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#11

I will be very glad when they catch him or kill him, but either way he will be used as a marter for the rest of the al Qaeda. I am afraid that this will carry on for a long time.

I am trying to see things from your perspective....But I can't get my head that far up my ass!


Remember - The TOES you step on today maybe attached to the ASS you have to kiss tomorrow.

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#12

Quote:Originally posted by halfasleep+Apr 15 2004, 12:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(halfasleep @ Apr 15 2004, 12:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-velvet@Apr 15 2004, 12:35 PM
Very good point there hun . Ive been hearing abit about it here and we have heard that it was known before it happened but no one seemd to believe it . Not the way to keep a cvountry safe thats for sure .
Esepcially when the 'Muslum mastermind' borrow ideas out of Tom Clancey novels.... who's next? Clive Cussler, Robert Ludlum???? [/b][/quote]
JR Tolkien :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:

Why do I keep this cesspool alive?
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#13

Reminds me of Alexander the Great's offer of the same premise. "If you stay out of my way in my bid for world domination, then I will leave your country alone." THat worked quite well for him until he was overthrown. I would expect the same for Bin Laden with countries like Spain, France and Germany. It will be interesting to see their reactions.
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#14

Quote:Originally posted by Ironcandle@Apr 15 2004, 01:50 PM
It will be interesting to see how europe reacts to the offer. I wonder if they will abandon us?
Britain definitely won`t. Blair has sacrificed too much to pull out of it now. France aren`t involved anyway (surprise surprise) and Spain is already committed to pulling out it`s troops.
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#15

I hope Europe will remember the lesson that Hitler taught all of us. Madmen do not make deals, they strive on death and destruction, and NOBODY is immune.
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#16

No word from France, of course, but this is reassuring.



Europe: No deal with bin Laden

Thursday, April 15, 2004 Posted: 9:42 AM EDT (1342 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- European politicans have ruled out negotiations with Osama bin Laden after a tape purported to be of the al Qaeda leader offered a truce to European nations if they pulled out troops from Muslim countries.

"It is completely unthinkable that we could start negotiations with bin Laden. Everyone understands that," Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini told reporters.

European Commission President Romano Prodi said there could be no negotiating under a "terrorist threat." (Analysis)

In Britain the Foreign Office said there was no proof the voice on the tape was bin Laden. However, the message was being taken seriously.

"We can't negotiate with al Qaeda," a spokesman said. "Their attacks are against the very idea of co-existence and conflict is their raison d'etre.

"To hide in the face of the threat is not an answer. The right response is to continue to confront terrorism not give in to its demands."

A German government spokesman said the country would not negotiate with "criminals" like bin Laden.

"There will be no negotiations with terrorists and serious criminals like Osama bin Laden. The international community must continue the fight against international terrorism together. Germany will continue to contribute to that," the spokesman said.

Arab language TV network Al-Arabiya aired Wednesday what it said was an audio tape from bin Laden, in which he threatened revenge on America, but offers a truce to European states.

CNN experts who have listened to the tape say that the speaker sounds like bin Laden but there is no way for CNN to independently confirm the speaker's identity.

Dubai-based Al-Arabiya declined to say how it received the tape, but the speaker referred to events that occurred less than a month ago.

In the audio tape, the speaker threatens revenge on the United States for the death of Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, who was killed March 22 in an Israeli targeted helicopter attack in Gaza City.

He also refers to the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States and the March 11, 2004 Madrid train bombings as examples of actions al Qaeda has taken in response to attacks on Muslims.

He offers a "truce" or "non-aggression" to any European country that stops "attacking Muslims," but excludes the United States from any such deal.

The speaker gives a three-month deadline, starting April 15, for countries to stop attacking Muslims. He mentions Iraq but not in the specific context of the U.S.-led war.

The last tape believed to have been recorded by bin Laden aired in January on Qatar-based Arabic language network, Al Jazeera.

The CIA said the speaker on that tape was "likely" bin Laden, who describes the U.S. involvement in Iraq as the beginning of an occupation of Persian Gulf states for their oil.

"Whoever made the tape," a CIA official said noting the Yassin death reference, it "clearly has been made in the last three weeks."

Intelligence officials conducting a technical analysis of the tape expect to say "soon" whether they believe the comments are the voice of bin Laden.

On March 25, Al Jazeera aired a tape believed to be from bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, calling on Pakistanis to overthrow President Pervez Musharraf
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#17

Thanks for posting this IC . Its great to see that the other countries are not fooled by this psycho .
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