[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

On the other hand, you have a résumé from a gifted man with an Ivy League education. He worked as a community organizer, and immersed himself in Chicago machine politics. Then he ran for the state legislature — where nearly 130 times he was unable to make a decision yes or no. He simply voted "present."

As mayor of New York City, I never got a chance to vote "present." And you know, when you're president of the United States, you can't just vote "present." You must make decisions.

A few years later, he ran for the U.S. Senate. He won and has spent most of his time as a "celebrity senator." No leadership or major legislation to speak of. His rise is remarkable in its own right — it's the kind of thing that could happen only in America. But he's never run a city, never run a state, never run a business.

He's never had to lead people in crisis.

This is not a personal attack ... it's a statement of fact — Barack Obama has never led anything.

Nothing. Nada.

:lool: x 1,000,000

[Jimmy]

Gotta start somewhere?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I read that in her mayoral election only a 1000 people voted out of 7000.Its like being head of your home owners association.

I love the nit picking.

Facts:

Average age in Wasilla, AL is 29 years old.

The high school has 1223 students
The rest of the middle schools and elementary schools have about 4,000 kids (3994 to be exact).

That's 5200 kids in grade school and doesn't count private schools or dropouts. I'm not sure what the voting age is in Alaska. How about you check that out.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

When Russia rolled over Georgia, John McCain knew exactly how to respond.

Having been to that part of the world many times and having developed a clear worldview over many years, John knew where he stood. Within hours, he established a very strong, informed position that let the world know exactly how he'll respond as president. At exactly the right time, John McCain said, "We're all Georgians."

Obama's first instinct was to create a moral equivalency — that "both sides" should "show restraint." The same moral equivalency that he has displayed in discussing the Palestinian Authority and the state of Israel.

Later, after discussing it with his 300 foreign policy advisers, he changed his position and suggested that "the UN Security Council" could find a solution. Apparently, none of his 300 advisers told him that Russia has a veto on any U.N. action. Finally Obama put out a statement that looked ... well, it looked a lot like John McCain's.

Here's some free advice: Sen. Obama, next time just call John McCain.

:loool:

[BIRD33]

how many votes did obama get in his senate run again?

3,597,456

Thats just like being mayor of a small town in Alaska!

[BIRD33]

Gotta start somewhere?

How bout starting with the quote function?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

All I'm saying is being a mayor of a podunk town isnt a big deal.Could you see your local mayor being qualified to be vp?I couldnt.

Could you see some guy down at the food bank serving soup to crackheads being your next president?

[BIRD33]

I love the nit picking.

Facts:

Average age in Wasilla, AL is 29 years old.

The high school has 1223 students
The rest of the middle schools and elementary schools have about 4,000 kids (3994 to be exact).

That's 5200 kids in grade school and doesn't count private schools or dropouts. I'm not sure what the voting age is in Alaska. How about you check that out.

18 like the rest of the united states?

All I'm saying is being a mayor of a podunk town isnt a big deal.Could you see your local mayor being qualified to be vp?I couldnt.

29 is the average age?Thats really young.Its like lord of the flies up there.

[BIRD33]

Could you see some guy down at the food bank serving soup to crackheads being your next president?

If he was the former head of the Harvard Law review then yes I could.You're embarassing yourself.

[BIRD33]

Flump enjoy this momentary spurt of positive momentum becuase its not going to last.People vote on based on the top of the ticket not the vp.Mccain is down in all the states he needs to win.Linking Mccain to Bush is working.You don't realize it yet but picking Palin put the nail in Mccains coffin.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

If he was the former head of the Harvard Law review then yes I could.You're embarassing yourself.

Well, to be honest I'm not all that much of a fan of lawyers and especially ones right out of law school with no experience to back up how smart they think they are.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Flump enjoy this momentary spurt of positive momentum becuase its not going to last.People vote on based on the top of the ticket not the vp.Mccain is down in all the states he needs to win.Linking Mccain to Bush is working.You don't realize it yet but picking Palin put the nail in Mccains coffin.

We'll see. Did you hear that McCain's team raised $7 million dollars the day that he announced Palin as VP? In one day.

People are suddenly going apeshit over the decorated war veteran and Miss Alaska. Its crazy.

I may actually use my penis to push the button in the voting booth this year.

[BIRD33]

We'll see. Did you hear that McCain's team raised $7 million dollars the day that he announced Palin as VP? In one day.

People are suddenly going apeshit over the decorated war veteran and Miss Alaska. Its crazy.

I may actually use my penis to push the button in the voting booth this year.

Obama raised 50 million in the month of July.One month.

The only people going crazy over Palin is people who were voting for Mccain anyway.That just shows how little excitment there was for Mccain in the first place.I think most neutral people still don't know what to make of her.Polls are showing that independents are turned off by the Palin selection.You're like the band that played while the titanic was sinking.

[Jimmy]

How bout starting with the quote function?

I love the nitpicking.

>_>

[Anhil8tor]

bird or clay...

will either of you make a list of the changes that obama says he will do. I'd like to keep a scorecard if he becomes president.

[BIRD33]

bird or clay...

will either of you make a list of the changes that obama says he will do. I'd like to keep a scorecard if he becomes president.

1. We won't torture people.

Thats good enough for me.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

1. We won't torture people.

Thats good enough for me.

Wow, that was a good pick to make yourself look stupid. I wonder which candidate would have the most information on what torture is like?

[BIRD33]

Wow, that was a good pick to make yourself look stupid. I wonder which candidate would have the most information on what torture is like?

Mccain doesnt think waterboarding is torture and doesnt think we've tortured anyone.You'd think with his first hand knowledge on the topic he'd be more involved but its hard to win a nomination by being anti-torture when you're party backs GWB's policy of "inhanced interrogation".

You don't even know mccains position on the issue but I look stupid?Thanks for being you, seriously.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Mccain doesnt think waterboarding is torture and doesnt think we've tortured anyone.You'd think with his first hand knowledge on the topic he'd be more involved but its hard to win a nomination by being anti-torture when you're party backs GWB's policy of "inhanced interrogation".

You don't even know mccains position on the issue but I look stupid?Thanks for being you, seriously.

It was not my intent to eliminate the CIA interrogation program, but rather to ensure that the techniques it employs are humane and do not include such extreme techniques as waterboarding. I said on the Senate floor during the debate over the Military Commissions Act, 'Let me state this flatly: it was never our purpose to prevent the CIA from detaining and interrogating terrorists. On the contrary, it is important to the war on terror that the CIA have the ability to do so. At the same time, the CIA’s interrogation program has to abide by the rules, including the standards of the Detainee Treatment Act.'

Stop twisting the fucking facts to fit your smear campaign. It makes you look desperate.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Mccain doesnt think waterboarding is torture and doesnt think we've tortured anyone.You'd think with his first hand knowledge on the topic he'd be more involved but its hard to win a nomination by being anti-torture when you're party backs GWB's policy of "inhanced interrogation".

You don't even know mccains position on the issue but I look stupid?Thanks for being you, seriously.

Find one direct quote from John McCain that says that he thinks that waterboarding is okay.

Then find me one quote from Obama where he says that he will eliminate ALL forms of torture used during interrogations by the CIA, military, or any other branch of the US government.