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Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-28-2008, 07:55 PM

BIRD33 Wrote:I just think it leaves no other option but for him to make a spectacular speech.If its just good than people will be disappointed.

Well, people are going to be expecting a spectacular speech regardless of where he gives it. This one is going to have to be on the MLK Jr level of speeches. This is not just an acceptance speech.

cLaY · 08-28-2008, 08:05 PM

He'll hit a home run. I'm pretty excited about it. My parents are going to be there. Can't wait to see all the pictures.

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 08:23 PM

Your parents went to Colorado just to see him?

cLaY · 08-28-2008, 08:27 PM

BIRD33 Wrote:Your parents went to Colorado just to see him?

Yeah. Not like its that far. My Dad has been following Obama for like 3 years. Met him twice before he announced he was running.

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 08:36 PM

Thats pretty cool.It will be a historic night that can only be topped by his innaugaration(sp) speech if he wins.

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-28-2008, 08:40 PM

BIRD33 Wrote:Thats pretty cool.It will be a historic night that can only be topped by his innaugaration(sp) speech if he wins.

I wonder how a guy sits down to write a speech like that? I bet he has been working on it for years, just in case.

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 08:51 PM

Its he and another guy writing it.I'm sure he's known what he wants to say for a while, just fine tuning it.

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 10:52 PM

Everyone who complains about Obama wanting to raise taxes should try this website out.It shows what you would be paying or saving in taxes if Obama was elected and also shows what you'd be paying under a Mccain administration.

http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

I did it and I save $433.00.

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-28-2008, 11:18 PM

Your Obama Tax Cut is: You will probably not get an Obama Tax Cut

It doesn't show me how to calculate my tax situation for McCain. It also does not show me how much my "tax increase" will be under Obama.

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-28-2008, 11:20 PM

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 11:27 PM

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Your Obama Tax Cut is: You will probably not get an Obama Tax Cut

It doesn't show me how to calculate my tax situation for McCain. It also does not show me how much my "tax increase" will be under Obama.

Well look at you.Consider it payment for all the exciting war coverage you've watched over the last 4 years.

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-28-2008, 11:45 PM

BIRD33 Wrote:Well look at you.Consider it payment for all the exciting war coverage you've watched over the last 4 years.

I still don't see where it calculates your tax savings/increase for McCain?

BIRD33 · 08-28-2008, 11:53 PM

Underneath my total of $433.00 it said under John Mccain you would be paying $336.00 more.

Anhil8tor · 08-28-2008, 11:56 PM

BIRD33 Wrote:Getting out of iraq.Paying off the deficit created by 1 billion a month spent in Iraq that we are borrowing from China.Universal healthcare.

I think you know this.If only he was 50% more white.

we aren't getting out of iraq in the next 4 years....

ha! yeah right.

universal healthcare is a joke...

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-29-2008, 12:09 AM

BIRD33 Wrote:Underneath my total of $433.00 it said under John Mccain you would be paying $336.00 more.

Oh I g et it. It only gives out the "best" news. If the news is bad, it doesn't mention it. That's why mine was worded "you PROBABLY won't get a tax cut under Obama"

BIRD33 · 08-29-2008, 12:33 AM

Anhil8tor Wrote:we aren't getting out of iraq in the next 4 years....

ha! yeah right.

universal healthcare is a joke...

Iraq's president said we will not be there past 2011 and Bush is agreeable to it.It was in the news last week.Do you read the papers, 8?How can you act like you know who you want to vote for without paying attention to the issues?

BIRD33 · 08-29-2008, 12:34 AM

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Oh I g et it. It only gives out the "best" news. If the news is bad, it doesn't mention it. That's why mine was worded "you PROBABLY won't get a tax cut under Obama"

It said you wouldnt get a tax cut under Obama.Isnt that the bad news your looking for?

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-29-2008, 12:52 AM

BIRD33 Wrote:It said you wouldnt get a tax cut under Obama.Isnt that the bad news your looking for?

You know my point. And this is not a slam against Obama. I'm sure McCain has some kind of site like this to, that only gives out good news if you are affected better by his plan on whatever.

The point is, this is one thing about politics that I hate. They only tell you the part of things that people want to hear. Then they disguise any of the findings that might sway you the other direction.

If that chart told me that under Obama my taxes would go up $10,000 and under McCain my taxes would go down $10,000 then they don't want me to know that.

Everyone does this, but this is the part of politics that drives me fucking crazy.

Flumper Barflusterbutt · 08-29-2008, 01:13 AM

I will say this much about Obama, and I'm not saying this out of any personal racist view, but if he were 50% more white, meaning that if he was Caucasian and had his same charisma and speaking ability, he would be unbeatable. His lack of experience would be simply perceived as "a washington outsider" which is normally a plus in times like this.

BIRD33 · 08-29-2008, 02:52 AM

I bet Mccain takes a chick as vp.Its the smart move.

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