[BIRD33]

So do we go after every leader, group or tribe thats killing their own people? Whats stopping us from going after Syria? Why are we not going into the Ivory Coast? Where do we draw the line.

My main problem with all of this is that I know with 100% certainty... Had Bush done this while in office, they would have slaughtered him. Remember the civilian death toll we got daily from the Iraq bombings? I guess it just so happens that the depleted uranium tipped bombs dropped by our B-2 bombers aren't hitting civilians.

Now Libya is reporting 144 civilians have been killed. There is a report that says Ghadafi (sp?) has killed thousands....

Dude you have no credibility on this matter at all.Apply your first sentence to the iraq war you supported unequivocally and explain how you arent a hypocrite especially since we are not invading anyone.This is not the same and saying Bush would have got killed if he did this ignores the fact that a majority of americans supported the invasion of iraq.So what are you talking about "poor GW always being picked on"?He had support for his war until it came out he basically lied and pushed trumped up intelligence to support his jihad against saddam.You turned on him just like every other sheep who realized they were played and now you're taking your misplaced anger out on Obama and applying it to a situation that has very little in common with Iraq.

Unless Obama is lying about Quadaffi murdering innocent people than what the fuck are you talking about?I weep for the south.

[BIRD33]

Hey 8 just to prove you're in the tank for anything anti-obama and in the process rooting against america doing well under a president you didnt vote for I'd like to point out what you were talking about last march one year ago.

Remember you pinning the stock market on Obama right after he took office?

Market Now Down 32% Since Obama Took Office

Funny I havent heard a peep out of you on the stock market in a while.Wonder why that is?

Wall Street abounds with ‘Obamanomics’ critics, and Main Street made clear its discontent with the president’s policies in the results of the midterm elections last November.

But detractors of President Obama should remember one thing – Wall Street has been booming under this president. Since Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow is up about 48%, the S&P 500 is up 60% and the tech-focused Nasdaq is up 90%.

http://www.investorplace.com/28674/presi...ck-market/

I love that a guy that you have a major inferiority complex about is actually making you money but you arent man enough to give him credit for it.Makes me smile.

[Anhil8tor]

Unless Obama is lying about Quadaffi murdering innocent people than what the fuck are you talking about?I weep for the south.

Where have more innocent people died

A. Libya
B. Ivory Coast

[BIRD33]

Where have more innocent people died

A. Libya
B. Ivory Coast

Why does this matter?Also this is a NATO operation so why is this Obama's "war" again?Nato is choosing to do this.If you are all the sudden some champion for the blacks in the ivory coast(ha!) then take it up with Nato.

I'm at a loss for what you're trying to say here based on your past support for military actions and outrageous spending except that if its a democrat calling the shots you arent for it.

[Anhil8tor]

It matters because aren't we helping NATO because Ghaddafi (sp?) is killing his own people... Right? Wasn't that why we decided to help? So I ask... why stop there. Lets do Syria or Ivory Coast...

Now we are only assisting.. so that means Obama can make that decision himself right. He doesn't have to consult the congress or senate at all right?

You were banging the drum about our spending in Iraq and Afghanastan right? We've topped $600 million so far to oust Ghaddafi.... You are fine with that because that was what NATO wanted to do?

We fired 200 tomahawk missiles at a million a pop... To help NATO. Does NATO get the bill?

[BIRD33]

It matters because aren't we helping NATO because Ghaddafi (sp?) is killing his own people... Right? Wasn't that why we decided to help? So I ask... why stop there. Lets do Syria or Ivory Coast...

Now we are only assisting.. so that means Obama can make that decision himself right. He doesn't have to consult the congress or senate at all right?

You were banging the drum about our spending in Iraq and Afghanastan right? We've topped $600 million so far to oust Ghaddafi.... You are fine with that because that was what NATO wanted to do?

We fired 200 tomahawk missiles at a million a pop... To help NATO. Does NATO get the bill?

Not afganistan, they attacked us.I'm not a hypocrite.Iraq was a lie from the get go and I saw it.Thats what I was against.Spending was just the cherry on top of the iraq shit sundae but hardly the real problem since american lives were sacrificed.

Again I don't except that you're this spending hawk.Your peoples decisions put us in this hole.This nato action will be a fraction of the cost the iraq war ends up being.Shut the fuck up with this now I see the light we should never spend another dollar overseas crap.Its total bullshit so just sit back and count the money Obama's netted you on the stock market.

[BIRD33]

The balls it takes to cheer lead the iraq war and then turn around when the next president come along and pretend to be this fiscal conservative is pretty impressive.You must need a wheelbarrow to heft those suckers around.

[Anhil8tor]

Alright.. what happens if Ghadaffi wins? What happens if the rebels that we are helping are thwarted?

[BIRD33]

I've said I'm not for this action.Its no iraq but its not something I would have choose to do.My whole attitude is who gives a shit what happens.If they keep it at a bosnia level of force I'm not happy but accept whats going on.If this just settles down and leads to Quadaffi having a civil war with his own people thats fine with me.Fuck him.

[BIRD33]

"I was happy to see that Newt Gingrich has staked out a position on the war, a position, or two, or maybe three. I don’t know. I think he has more war positions than he’s had wives. [...] There’s a big debate over there. Fox News can’t decide, what do they love more, bombing the Middle East or bashing the president? It’s like I was over there and there was an anchor going, they were pleading, can’t we do both? Can’t we bomb the Middle East and bash the president at the same time?" - Senator Rand Paul.



Hilarious.Keep in mind Fox is a "legitimate news channel".

[Anhil8tor]

I hear ya. To be honest with you I don't watch the news, fox sports or listen to the radio. Everything is either slanted one way or another.. don't give me that unbiased bullshit.

I'm just thinking out loud here. Really this is the only place I discuss politics. I have no desire to have other people tell me what they believe and why its right....esh.

I was just wondering if the rebels get squashed.. then what? I can see NATO coming back to the US saying.. you know we couldn't do it.. we need you to handle this.

I haven't even been paying attention to the stock market... hadn't checked my portfolio or anything. I sent in my money for my IRA last week and never even talked to the guy about my stocks.

[BIRD33]

If quadaffi wins we'll leave him alone and just sanction this shit out of him.We arent invading anyone.

How convenient you havent checked the stock market since you were critical of Obama over it and its improved greatly.

[Anhil8tor]

Pretty convenient I guess... Been pretty busy at home.... used to i'd have an hour to hour and a half to kill before supper. 8.2 is in pinto know which is machine pitch so we spend an hour a day working on throwing, catching and batting... want to make sure he doesn't suck the most.. ya know?

After that I'm pretty spent.. i've been getting up at 5am to workout and whatnot... no time.

[BIRD33]

I'm not really interested in your daily itinerary but when you repeatedly bash a guy over something that later improves and you somehow forget to address the improvement it looks a little chickenshit.

[BIRD33]

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/unemplo...-year-low/

For the second month in a row, we’ve got a strong jobs report and signs that the economy really has turned a corner:




Obama's socialist policies will ruin this country!!!!!@!11111!!!!

Seriously do you shitbirds ever tire of being so wrong?

[BIRD33]

these guys are on our side.I know I feel better.

[BIRD33]

[Anhil8tor]

That really doesn't surprise me. Too bad we have too many lower class citizens these days right?

[BIRD33]

I'm afraid you are serious.

[Anhil8tor]

I'm afraid you are serious.

Wouldn't it make sense that the higher income people are better educated?