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Sorry for raving. Just trying to point out that while not drilling until we get the well capped is fine... but if the moratorium stays in effect.... all the rigs will leave. Then we become fully dependent on oil from other countries.
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You are blaming bush? Srsly?
Dude Obama has been in office for 2+ years... it happened under his watch not the previous president. Also, didn't Obama say if that junk shot didn't work that the government would take over? Am I remembering that wrong?
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Yeah I don't remember exactly.
My major problem with Obama's response was the lack of urgency. He should have jumped in both with both feet and got the navy and coast guard involved. I understand he can't cap the well with the lack of technology but he could have helped alot in the cleanup. I'm not a sadist that believes he intentionally wants to harm our coast to move his agenda... I just think he didn't know what to do. Whats the precedent for something unprecedented? What do we do when we have never had a problem like this before?
I think BP declares bankruptcy by September 1st.
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I read "wimps in the whitehouse" in an article about Obama and McChrystal.... Just threw it in.
Sposedly its over a million which isn't relevant seeing how much they would have made on the well. I guess we can call it containment instead of clean up. You'd be correct that you can't clean it up as long as its leaking.
I wonder how forth coming BP is with the government. Obviously at first they lied about almost everything... I wonder how much the government truly knows about the well.
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have yall heard how many boats, barges, etc are in the gulf right now either working on the containment or the cleanup? I heard a story last night talking about the hurricane and what effect a major hurricane in the gulf would have. And they listed all the boats and shit that is in the gulf right now cleaning this up. They were going too fast to add them all up, but it was well over 10,000. And I'm not talking about 10,000 fishing boats. I'm talking about 10,000 big ass boats.
They have some big ass barges just tied together end to end to end to end. To make barrier's to keep oil from coming on some shores. Of course, its not foolproof, some oil can get past them, but its blocking most of it and giving the "skimmer" boats time to suck up some of it. I can't even imagine in my wildest dreams how much this must be costing. I want to say there are around 50,000 people in the gulf right now working on this.
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The first relief well is close....
BP also has developed a new cap that should be able to collect all the oil...
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Jimmy - The old Hardcore Standard. :clap:
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man its hard to even read that.
its almost like this could be the beginning of the end of the world. like some cork has been pulled that man cannot reverse.
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Holy fuck.
Some speculate as much as 100,000 psi — far too much for current technology to contain. The shutoff vales and safety measures were built for only 1,000 psi.
Wow
Which leads us back to Mr. Landau's point about the mudlogs and why BP won't release them.
I don't know... Maybe I'm wearing my tinfoil hat too tight this morning... But this stuff seems possible — if it's only a worst case scenario.
What strikes me as odd is the way the leadership of BP and the Obama administration is acting.
BP is running around apologizing to everyone they can find. Obama says give us $20 billion in escrow and $100 million for the people Obama put out of work on the oil rigs due to his six month ban — and BP says, "Sure thing mate, no problem."
And all of this in a 20-minute meeting?
I've been dealing with oil companies for a long time and it just doesn't add up...
Contrast it, for instance, with the Exxon situation in Alaska or the Union Carbide disaster in India.
Exxon fought tooth and nail for its shareholders; it appealed court rulings for 19 years. Union Carbide wasn't settled for 25 years.
BP is rolling over like a simpering dog. Why?
The only reason I can think of is that the company knows — better if not as well as the Obama administration does — that it will get worse.
Much worse.
Also I expected more things about masturbating at petroleumworld.com.
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I sure hope these are all troll job stories. Otherwise it seems as if however much oil is under the sea bed of the gulf of mexico is fixing to rise up into the gulf of mexico. and then i guess that creates the world's giantest empty cavern under the sea floor. Which under all the pressure of the weight of the ocean will probably collapse. And no telling what kind of tsunamis and shit that will create when half the water in the gulf is sucked under the ocean floor.
They should make a movie of this before it happens so we can at least watch the end of the world before it happens.
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Wait. Now i see why James Cameron was called in.
