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#21

BIRD33 Wrote:Is this billups?What big shots?Hilarious.

He had quite a few against the Lakers during the finals.

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#22

cLaY Wrote:He had quite a few against the Lakers during the finals.

clay, since birdy is your lover, maybe you can esplane his hatred for billups
thanks

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#23

snarg Wrote:clay, since birdy is your lover, maybe you can esplane his hatred for billups
thanks

because he compares his game to AI. there are no comparisons and doesn't like giving guys credit when its due.

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#24

cLaY Wrote:because he compares his game to AI. there are no comparisons and doesn't like giving guys credit when its due.

of course AI is in a different class
not in the class of the big 0, however
we need to put homerism aside

(now if only there were a good explanation as to why birdf thought elgin baylor was a guard )

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#25

snarg Wrote:of course AI is in a different class
not in the class of the big 0, however
we need to put homerism aside

(now if only there were a good explanation as to why birdf thought elgin baylor was a guard )

Zeke and AI are the greatest guards to play the game. Oscar is right up there. So is Cousy.

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#26

cLaY Wrote:Zeke and AI are the greatest guards to play the game. Oscar is right up there. So is Cousy.

yes, and history will rank billups just a step behind in the next group

as for the order, it is highly subjective, and you chilluns are unable to include the pioneers who set the bar

magic played most of his carrer as a pg
where is he on the list?

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#27

snarg Wrote:of course AI is in a different class
not in the class of the big 0, however
we need to put homerism aside

(now if only there were a good explanation as to why birdf thought elgin baylor was a guard )

I confused baylor and robertson.

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#28

snarg Wrote:yes, and history will rank billups just a step behind in the next group

as for the order, it is highly subjective, and you chilluns are unable to include the pioneers who set the bar

magic played most of his carrer as a pg
where is he on the list?

i guess Bird thinks Magic should be considered a SF.

Oscar's accomplishments are great, but his competition level was very weak.

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#29

cLaY Wrote:i guess Bird thinks Magic should be considered a SF.

Oscar's accomplishments are great, but his competition level was very weak.

bird does not decide where someone played
magic played guard most of the time, fercrissakes

and confusing big 0 and baylor proves my point
next i am gonna hear that doc J had no competition so he was not an all time great

I realise that I have a past to break with--an accumulation of inertia, wrong, foolishness, rot, junk.  A great need of clarification, of mindfulness, or rather, of no mind.  A need to return to genuine practice, right effort.  Need to push on the great doubt.  Need for the spirit.  Hang on to the clear light.
           
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#30

snarg Wrote:yes, and history will rank billups just a step behind in the next group

as for the order, it is highly subjective, and you chilluns are unable to include the pioneers who set the bar

magic played most of his carrer as a pg
where is he on the list?

History?You are smoking crack.I repeat his team is loaded.A finals MVP doesnt gurantee HOF neither does two or three all-star games. What has billups done when not on a team thats loaded?He sucked.Plain and simple.Career Avg. before being put on a loaded team 12.0 ppg.If Billups was on Phoenix would he have Steve Nash #'s?Hell no.

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#31

snarg Wrote:bird does not decide where someone played
magic played guard most of the time, fercrissakes

and confusing big 0 and baylor proves my point
next i am gonna hear that doc J had no competition so he was not an all time great

Proves what point?I'm busy with a job and typed the wrong name?

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#32

Update:
Lifetime stats for Billups 14.0 ppg 4.5 ast.

Hall of fame here he comes!!!

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#33

i was hoping for a more cogent argument
thanks for participating, guys

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#34

BIRD33 Wrote:Update:
Lifetime stats for Billups 14.0 ppg 4.5 ast.

Hall of fame here he comes!!!

how many of those seasons was he backing up in Minny and Boston? If it was up to me the whole starting 5 for Detroit would make the hall. Teams like this don't come around that often.

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#35

cLaY Wrote:how many of those seasons was he backing up in Minny and Boston? If it was up to me the whole starting 5 for Detroit would make the hall. Teams like this don't come around that often.

0, he was drafted as the main guy in boston and took over for marbury in minny.

Detroit is an unusally deep team with alot of scorers thats why billups looks so good.

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#36

snarg Wrote:i was hoping for a more cogent argument
thanks for participating, guys

About what?How you old timers know more?Go fuck yourself.

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#37

BIRD33 Wrote:0, he was drafted as the main guy in boston and took over for marbury in minny.

Detroit is an unusally deep team with alot of scorers thats why billups looks so good.

They've been playing 8 guys all year. Billups is No. 2 in scoring for Detroit.

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#38

John Havlicek was $$$, just sayin...

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#39

WoolyGoat Wrote:John Havlicek was $$$, just sayin...

yes, he was
spent a lot of his career coming off the bench and still a true HOF'er
the celts back then were what the pistons are now: a team

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#40

All this team talk will end when the Pistons realize they dont have a center in the playoffs.

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