[leeman]

Thought about using Visio?
I use CAD as well. You can figure it out, but Visio is much easier

Visio is fun ... especially with the network autoprobe function ...

I connected my puter outside the firewall and told it to inventory the internet ...

Left it on for 5 weeks and then my harddrive was full :d

[Raiden]

Visio is fun ... especially with the network autoprobe function ...

I connected my puter outside the firewall and told it to inventory the internet ...

Left it on for 5 weeks and then my harddrive was full :d

so, you got lots of porn?

[leeman]

so, you got lots of porn?

Nahh but the discovery datafile kinda got big and it ws only 2% done

[Bill]

autocad is relatively easy to learn but don't expect to install it and start being productive with it right away. it's gonna take a little time. being an old school board drafter, it took me some time to adjust. I'm only telling you this cause I don't want you to dismantal your drawing board the moment after you install it. two best things money can by when learning autocad. 1) a good 3 button mouse. 2) copy of inside autocad.

inside autocad is pretty much a tutorial, but well worth the effort and $$. Clay or myself can always help ya out if ya run into a snag.

[cLaY]

autocad is relatively easy to learn but don't expect to install it and start being productive with it right away. it's gonna take a little time. being an old school board drafter, it took me some time to adjust. I'm only telling you this cause I don't want you to dismantal your drawing board the moment after you install it. two best things money can by when learning autocad. 1) a good 3 button mouse. 2) copy of inside autocad.

inside autocad is pretty much a tutorial, but well worth the effort and $$. Clay or myself can always help ya out if ya run into a snag.

knowing how to draft on board is half the battle, you'll find yourself using little tricks here and there to get the finished job a lot faster.

on the mouse, i seriously suggest a Logitech MX500 or higher, they have a roller/pan button, and two side buttons you can dedicate to Auto Snap. I don't know what I'd do without those.

basic landscaping will be a cake walk with Auto CAD, and if you get a new enough version, hatching and some of the new colors can make for nice presentation for customers. i like using Arc GIS just because its way cleaner than Auto CAD, but that cost serious dough, and you really don't need it for site lay out.

[Bill]

knowing how to draft on board is half the battle, you'll find yourself using little tricks here and there to get the finished job a lot faster.

on the mouse, i seriously suggest a Logitech MX500 or higher, they have a roller/pan button, and two side buttons you can dedicate to Auto Snap. I don't know what I'd do without those.

basic landscaping will be a cake walk with Auto CAD, and if you get a new enough version, hatching and some of the new colors can make for nice presentation for customers. i like using Arc GIS just because its way cleaner than Auto CAD, but that cost serious dough, and you really don't need it for site lay out.

not neccessarily, I spent weeks printing out shit looking drawings, till I got my pen table set up to mimic my line weights..If the dood's a true old school hand draftsman, this will likely make hime hate the whole thing.

[Raiden]

not neccessarily, I spent weeks printing out shit looking drawings, till I got my pen table set up to mimic my line weights..If the dood's a true old school hand draftsman, this will likely make hime hate the whole thing.

Good point, Bill. I wouldn't have known about the line weight option and I certainly would be pissed if I drew a pool with flagstone coping and stuff all with the same line weight. It's the little things like that that've made me shy away from AutoCAD before. I've seen some total crap from other people using it and figured that's just the way it was, but then I saw some nice, professional looking work recently from a landscape designer. Drafting by hand, I'm constantly messing with my leads to get the right thickness for the task.

[Bill]

Good point, Bill. I wouldn't have known about the line weight option and I certainly would be pissed if I drew a pool with flagstone coping and stuff all with the same line weight. It's the little things like that that've made me shy away from AutoCAD before. I've seen some total crap from other people using it and figured that's just the way it was, but then I saw some nice, professional looking work recently from a landscape designer. Drafting by hand, I'm constantly messing with my leads to get the right thickness for the task.

well then don't expect it to be right overnight....I can talk ya through alot when your ready.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Can autocad be used to delete this thread?

[cLaY]

well then don't expect it to be right overnight....I can talk ya through alot when your ready.

same here.