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Gulf Oil Leak
#81

Snarg and bird... Can you tell me that you do not feel like the government was overwhelmed and unprepared to handle a disaster of this kind that we knew eventually would result from drilling wells at 5000 feet?

If you can tell me that without a doubt you feel that this has no reflection on our current government than you are true hypocrites.
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#82

I think the main reason that this will be such a huge blow to Obama is the way he tried to pin the damage from a Hurricane on Bush. You just can't have it both ways.
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#83

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I think the main reason that this will be such a huge blow to Obama is the way he tried to pin the damage from a Hurricane on Bush. You just can't have it both ways.

Exactly what I'm trying to explain that the holier than thou duo can't grasp. Blame always falls on who is in charge... No matter what it is.
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#84

Anhil8tor Wrote:Snarg and bird... Can you tell me that you do not feel like the government was overwhelmed and unprepared to handle a disaster of this kind that we knew eventually would result from drilling wells at 5000 feet?

If you can tell me that without a doubt you feel that this has no reflection on our current government than you are true hypocrites.

Its like saying the US government was overwhelmed by that Volcano going off in Iceland or where ever.We'd be more capable of handling an oil spill on the moon.The government is not an oil company.The oil companies if they plan on doing oil company business need to have plans for this type of stuff.They didnt because of lax regulation thanks to the previous administration that literally let CEO's into the whitehouse to craft energy policy.

8 arent you Mr. anti government intruding in our daily lives?Yet you want them to be equipped to handle every industries fuck ups?Do you get how contradictory your two stances are?

See You In Toledo
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#85

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I think the main reason that this will be such a huge blow to Obama is the way he tried to pin the damage from a Hurricane on Bush. You just can't have it both ways.

8 do you get that flumpers fucking with you?

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#86

[Image: obama_oil_contrib_final.jpg]


BP better bump it up
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#87

Anhil8tor Wrote:Exactly what I'm trying to explain that the holier than thou duo can't grasp. Blame always falls on who is in charge... No matter what it is.

Well, if that's your opinion then I couldn't disagree more. In fact, that is probably the most hypocritical post that I have seen in this thread.

I think what this unprecedented disaster in the gulf is showing Obama and the rest of the democrats is that blaming the president or an administration for disasters on this scale is a huge pile of crap.

I mean, seriously you can't prevent a hurricane. All you can do is be as prepared as possible, manage the death and destruction as well as you can when it hits and then rebuild. And sure you can pick that apart all day about what could have been done or should have been done. Any response is not going to be good enough. And that was a natural disaster.

Now this one is a manmade disaster. And its still going on. Its been over a month and its still going. The impact of this is going to be astronomical. And, unlike New Orleans which is pretty much back in business, the Gulf is going to be a damaged reminder of this situation for a long long time.

The story of this catastrophe hasn't even begun yet.
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#88

BIRD33 Wrote:8 arent you Mr. anti government intruding in our daily lives?Yet you want them to be equipped to handle every industries fuck ups?Do you get how contradictory your two stances are?

I'm contradicting myself on purpose. Seriously. I find it amazing that everyone thought Katrina was Bushs fault and they feel Obama has no fault. Its a purely ignorant view in my opinion. Jindal has pushed forth ideas from the beginning and he has received no answer as to whether he can do it or not. I don't follow party lines but its obvious that you and snarg do to a T. For that matter most Dems do.
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#89

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Well, if that's your opinion then I couldn't disagree more. In fact, that is probably the most hypocritical post that I have seen in this thread.

I think what this unprecedented disaster in the gulf is showing Obama and the rest of the democrats is that blaming the president or an administration for disasters on this scale is a huge pile of crap.

I mean, seriously you can't prevent a hurricane. All you can do is be as prepared as possible, manage the death and destruction as well as you can when it hits and then rebuild. And sure you can pick that apart all day about what could have been done or should have been done. Any response is not going to be good enough. And that was a natural disaster.

Now this one is a manmade disaster. And its still going on. Its been over a month and its still going. The impact of this is going to be astronomical. And, unlike New Orleans which is pretty much back in business, the Gulf is going to be a damaged reminder of this situation for a long long time.

The story of this catastrophe hasn't even begun yet.


Did anyone blame bush for the hurricane?No

Did people blame bush for not sending help sooner as we watched masses of people die and get stranded at the super dome with no water?Yes.

He had to be shown news footage by his staff two days later in order to get him to take it seriously.Thats a fact.Thats what he gets criticized for.Do you get that?

See You In Toledo
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#90

If the people at British Petroleum are not all broke and the company completely bankrupt by the time this is over, then that will be the second biggest tragedy in our history.

Those fucks better be really careful when it comes "bonus" time this year.
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#91

boy you love that news footage line don't you.

So in your mind Bush was wrong and Obama is in the green right? Just a yes or no please.
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#92

This Oil Rig situation and Katrina are not apples to apples.

Bush could have done something sooner and didnt.

Obama didn't act outraged enough.Thats his crime,

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#93

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/...poll_N.htm

USA Today

Those guys are WAY off huh bird.
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#94

Anhil8tor Wrote:boy you love that news footage line don't you.

So in your mind Bush was wrong and Obama is in the green right? Just a yes or no please.

Tell me what Obama should have done about the oil rig leaking oil 5000 feet below the surface.

Look I get your mad but you are acting like a child lashing out at someone who has no control over the situation.

See You In Toledo
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#95

BIRD33 Wrote:Did anyone blame bush for the hurricane?No

Did people blame bush for not sending help sooner as we watched masses of people die and get stranded at the super dome with no water?Yes.

He had to be shown news footage by his staff two days later in order to get him to take it seriously.Thats a fact.Thats what he gets criticized for.Do you get that?

Hey, you guys are the one that took this "blame game" to record levels. I'm just going to enjoy watching you get to see how ridiculous it is when the show is on the other foot.
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#96

Obamas 9/11?

No way!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/opinio...edman.html
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#97

Anhil8tor Wrote:[Image: obama_oil_contrib_final.jpg]


BP better bump it up

Are you seriously trying to paint the democrats as the party of oil companies?

I love it!Have Phantom take over.You're looking terrible.

See You In Toledo
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#98

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Hey, you guys are the one that took this "blame game" to record levels. I'm just going to enjoy watching you get to see how ridiculous it is when the show is on the other foot.

I'll ask you the same question I asked 8.What should Obama have done about the oil rig leaking oil 5000 feet below the surface.What did he not do right here.

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#99

BIRD33 Wrote:Tell me what Obama should have done about the oil rig leaking oil 5000 feet below the surface.

Look I get your mad but you are acting like a child lashing out at someone who has no control over the situation.

I think he has the authority to take over this whole thing. Get BP off of this project and get something moving. Did BP really need to run that smaller pipe down there? No. Any idea why they did it? I'm lead to believe they are doing it to recover some oil from the well while trying to figure out how to cap it without ruining the well.

Let me ask you this. What happens if this doesn't work? What will Obama do then?
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BIRD33 Wrote:Are you seriously trying to paint the democrats as the party of oil companies?

I love it!Have Phantom take over.You're looking terrible.

I'm just showing you they all take money from oil companies. Don't be ignorant or "holier than thou"
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