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So I was watching the State of the Union last night....

I heard july 4th isnt when we announced we were breaking away from england.That whole holiday is totally misunderstood.

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[Image: taxplans.jpg]

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BIRD33 Wrote:[Image: taxplans.jpg]

I know that chart isn't right. That doesn't even correlate to the one on Obama's own website that you posted a few weeks ago.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I know that chart isn't right. That doesn't even correlate to the one on Obama's own website that you posted a few weeks ago.


Its correct.

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BIRD33 Wrote:[Image: taxplans.jpg]

[Image: taxsummary.png]


Yeah, I guess that is the same graph.
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But you know, to be honest with all politics aside, I don't seriously see how either one of them can have a plan that cuts taxes overall. With the cost of the war, the bailouts going on right now, the FEMA costs with the hurricanes, the cost of oil so high, and the deficit so high, how in the hell can they both be projecting tax cuts? Especially with all the talk about increasing health care and the other things they are proposing. I mean, seriously, does that make any sense?
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Uh oh.

Quote:Sunday, September 14, 2008


John McCain has once again opened a modest lead over Barack Obama in Florida.

The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Sunshine State finds John McCain attracting 49% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 44% (crosstabs available for Premium Members). Eighty-four percent (84%) of McCain voters and 84% of Obama voters are certain of their vote and say they will not change their mind before Election Day.

Although McCain has now had an advantage in eight of ten Florida polls this year, this is his biggest lead in the state since June. Just a week ago, the candidates were tied in Florida. Both nationally and in Florida, polling suggests that the race for the White House today is very similar to the final results for Election 2004. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows McCain with a very modest lead nationally and McCain’s five-point edge in Florida matches President Bush’s margin of victory in the state four years ago.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:[Image: taxsummary.png]


Yeah, I guess that is the same graph.

I believe the new one takes into account more factors.They are both from the washington post.

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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:But you know, to be honest with all politics aside, I don't seriously see how either one of them can have a plan that cuts taxes overall. With the cost of the war, the bailouts going on right now, the FEMA costs with the hurricanes, the cost of oil so high, and the deficit so high, how in the hell can they both be projecting tax cuts? Especially with all the talk about increasing health care and the other things they are proposing. I mean, seriously, does that make any sense?

How can you give guys like me $400 tax rebates when we waste a billion a month in Iraq?It never made any sense.Its just a way to bribe people into voting for you.After a certain point it becomes obvious and I think we are at that point.

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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Uh oh.


Not worried in the slightest.Obama's up in the electoral college polls and there are some states mccain would need to win that he has no chance to.

Wait till the debates and Mccain has to explain how the economy is strong in his view.A lot of people are going to scratch their head at that.

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Florida is still pissed off at the DNC

Banana Wrote:I've already said that who is my fave motivational poster

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This hilarious.


http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2008/09/2...ntPage=all


In summary: Because my candidate, unlike your winking/blinking Vice-Presidential candidate, who, though, yes, he did run as the running mate when the one asking him to run did ask him to run, which that I admire, one thing he did not do, with his bare hands or otherwise, is, did he ever kill a moose? No, but ours did. And I would. Please bring a moose to me, over by me, and down that moose will go, and, if I had a kid, I would take a picture of me showing my kid that dead moose, going, like, Uh, sweetie, no, he is not resting, he is dead, due to I shot him, and now I am going to eat him, and so are you, oh yes you are, which is responsible, as God put this moose here for us to shoot and eat and take a photo of, although I did not, at that time, know why God did, but in years to come, God’s will was revealed, which is: Hey, that is a cool photo for hunters about to vote to see, plus what an honor for that moose, to be on the Internet.

How does the moose feel about it? Who knows? Probably not great. But do you know what the difference is between a dead moose with lipstick on and a dead moose without lipstick?

Lipstick.

Think about it.

Moose are, truth be told, Élites. They are big and fast and sort of rule the forest. Sarah took that one down a notch. Who’s Élite now, Bullwinkle?

Not Sarah.

She’s just Regular as heck. ♦

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BIRD33 Wrote:Not worried in the slightest.Obama's up in the electoral college polls and there are some states mccain would need to win that he has no chance to.

Wait till the debates and Mccain has to explain how the economy is strong in his view.A lot of people are going to scratch their head at that.

Here's a little insight into how the American voters think. I was talking to my mom the other night before Ike came through (they live in the path it was projected to take thru texas). Anyway, she brought up Obama. So I asked her what she thought of him.

She said, "Well, I don't like that he doesn't have any experience, but my daddy told me a long time ago that when it comes to president you have to vote the Party not for the man. And I love Joe Biden. I think he is the best."

I said, "You are voting for Obama? I thought you would like John McCain since he's a war vet and all."

She said, "Oh that John McCain is too stupid to be president. I heard that he was so dumb that he got lost in his plane in Viet Nam and when he got shot at he was too stupid to figure out how to eject himself so he had to radio for help. When they finally figured out how to explain to him how to eject that he did it wrong and broke his shoulders."

I said, "Well, what about the part where he was in the POW camp and got beaten."

She said, "Who knows if that happened. He's just simple minded. He might not remember what happened."

I said, "So you are going to vote for Obama then?"

She said, "Well, I can't believe that my only choice is a colored and a simpleton, but I'm just going to vote the party."

I said, "Mom? Was I adopted?"
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She's a republican I'm guessing?

I think a majority(like 95%Wink of people over 60 are voting for Mccain.The change message doesnt resonate as much with them because they are scared they won't be here to see it anyway.I call that my snarg theory.

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BIRD33 Wrote:She's a republican I'm guessing?

I think a majority(like 95%Wink of people over 60 are voting for Mccain.The change message doesnt resonate as much with them because they are scared they won't be here to see it anyway.I call that my snarg theory.

snarg theory?!?
are you a fucking moron, or what??
do you think i would vote for mccain??

crist, tweety, you are a real disappointment

and flump's mom is smarter than he is
choose "between a colored and a simpleton"
difficult
lucky for flump he doesn't have that problem
he will just automatically go for the simpleton

i bet flump's mom is really his sister

and FTR, snarg is not yet 60

I realise that I have a past to break with--an accumulation of inertia, wrong, foolishness, rot, junk.  A great need of clarification, of mindfulness, or rather, of no mind.  A need to return to genuine practice, right effort.  Need to push on the great doubt.  Need for the spirit.  Hang on to the clear light.
           
Thomas Merton


       
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snarg Wrote:and FTR, snarg is not yet 60

how many more hours?

Banana Wrote:I've already said that who is my fave motivational poster

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Snarg your parental guilt only works on Wooley.

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i don't think it works on him

I realise that I have a past to break with--an accumulation of inertia, wrong, foolishness, rot, junk.  A great need of clarification, of mindfulness, or rather, of no mind.  A need to return to genuine practice, right effort.  Need to push on the great doubt.  Need for the spirit.  Hang on to the clear light.
           
Thomas Merton


       
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The GOP has quite the foreign policy ticket brewing.One thinks she's an expert on Russia because she can see it from her state and the other thinks Spain is in South America.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/217802.php

In case, you haven't seen our updates from last night, yesterday John McCain was interviewed on the Florida affiliate of Spanish radio network Union Radio. And in the interview McCain appeared not to know who the Prime Minister of Spain was and assumed he was some anti-American leftist leader from South America.

After the interviewer presses him a couple times on the point and tries to focus him on the fact that Prime Minister Zapatero isn't from Mexico and isn't a drug lord either McCain comes back at her saying, "All I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the Hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region."

Then there's a moment of awkward pause before she says. "But what about Europe? I'm talking about the President of Spain."

McCain: "What about me, what?(BIRD NOTE:Exactly the sharp as a tack guy I want close to the button)

Interviewer: "Are you willing to meet with him if you're elected president?"

McCain: "I am wiling to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for humans rights, democracy and freedom. And I will stand up to those who do not."

At this point, the interviewer gets tongue-tied presumably because she can't get over McCain not knowing what Spain is.


I heard Colbert I think say something hilarious last night and the jist of it was..."If Sara Palin is a Russian expert because she can see it from her house does that make me an astronaut since I look at the moon every night from my back yard?".

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BIRD33 Wrote:"If Sara Palin is a Russian expert because she can see it from her house does that make me an astronaut since I look at the moon every night from my back yard?".

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