[BIRD33]

"This bill is based on the premise that we believe in private, free-market capitalism to develop the resources of this land in a cost-efficient manner."
-- Rep. Joe Barton, on voting for bill giving the oil and gas industries $2.7B in tax breaks and $500M for research

Hey 8 the above is socialism.FYI.

[Anhil8tor]

What interest was it to Obama to slow down getting the leak fixed?Things like this make me question your sanity.

Because he hates the oilfield...


We are not unionized like his prized automotive industry. Its ok... we'll need oil for another 10 years at least.

[BIRD33]

I love it.All assumptions all the time with you.Never facts.Makes me feel less guilty for mocking you.

Your oil industry is as heavily subsidized as the auto industry.Any thoughts on how the money you get from the government is somehow different then what the auto industry gets?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

What interest was it to Obama to slow down getting the leak fixed?Things like this make me question your sanity.

What interest was it to Bush to slow down the relief effort after Katrina?

[BIRD33]

What interest was it to Bush to slow down the relief effort after Katrina?

These are two different scenarios and the cleanup has gone BETTER then expected.

Was it within Bush's capabilities to make sure there was enough bottled water for people stranded at the super dome?

Was it within Obama's capabilites to fix a oil leak 5000 feet down?

I think you see the difference.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

These are two different scenarios and the cleanup has gone BETTER then expected.

Was it within Bush's capabilities to make sure there was enough bottled water for people stranded at the super dome?

Was it within Obama's capabilites to fix a oil leak 5000 feet down?

I think you see the difference.

The loss of life and the damage after Katrina was much less than was expected. Remember when they were saying that as many as 10,000 might have died? These kinds of things are always "worst case scenario" when the shit first starts hitting the fan.

And as far as the cleanup goes, I heard today that although they have captured and cleaned a bunch of the oil, that the amount of remaining oil is still larger than Exxon Valdez. So don't fly your Mission Accomplished banner quite yet.

[BIRD33]

I'm not declaring victory by any means but 8 is saying Obama held up BP and once "he let them go" they had the oil leak fixed in a week.Do you buy that?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I'm not declaring victory by any means but 8 is saying Obama held up BP and once "he let them go" they had the oil leak fixed in a week.Do you buy that?

No. I don't think Obama ever took the reins over BP to either speed them up or slow them down. I think it was Obama that made them drill the 2nd well in case the first one didn't work, but I'm not even sure about that. It might have been Obama that shut them down for the week during that hurricane that never developed, which they said cost them a week. Who knows, but the timeline they laid out early on was pretty much exactly how it went down. The only real surprise was that containment cap that they put on a few weeks ago that finally worked.

I'm sort of shocked by how well BP has handled this so far. The dirtiest part of all of this is going to be figuring out all of the claims that are going to be made by people. Trying to figure out the real ones from the fake ones and then putting a fair value to them.

[BIRD33]

I give no credit to Obama for fixing the leak.I won't be giving BP any citizenship awards for fixing their mess.I do give Obama credit for having the cleanup run smoothly.I saw the news last night and people were bitching it was cleaned up too fast and too many people are getting laid off now that it is somewhat contained.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I give no credit to Obama for fixing the leak.I won't be giving BP any citizenship awards for fixing their mess.I do give Obama credit for having the cleanup run smoothly.I saw the news last night and people were bitching it was cleaned up too fast and too many people are getting laid off now that it is somewhat contained.

Yeah, I've been hearing the same thing. I also saw a news report the other night on a vietnamese fisherman that had spent over $5,000 that he had to borrow in order to re-outfit his boat to meet the standards of what BP required to be a "cleanup" boat. But then he never got a call to go to work.