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Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

"Writings or statements of questionable authorship or authenticity."

About 60% of the Dead Sea Scrolls have been deemed apocrypha, and only 40% of them are included in the biblical manuscripts.

Seems to me, that by that definition the entire Bible is apocrypha.

Discuss.

Define: apocryphal - BIRD33 - 07-12-2010

My poop hasnt been very solid lately.

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

This is exactly how I pictured this thread going.

Define: apocryphal - quint - 07-12-2010

would this apply to all these pm's that will show e-infidelity

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

quint Wrote:would this apply to all these pm's that will show e-infidelity

This is exactly how I pictured this thread going.

Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

So you mean they think that 60% of the dead sea scrolls are fakes? i'm confused.

Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

On another note, why is your nic now Leucifer? What happened to Leucitios (or whatever it was)? And what did Leucitios even mean in the first place? Thanks.

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:So you mean they think that 60% of the dead sea scrolls are fakes? i'm confused.

Not exactly.

Quote:The Dead Sea Scrolls are traditionally divided into three groups: "Biblical" manuscripts (copies of texts from the Hebrew Bible), which comprise roughly 40% of the identified scrolls; "Apocryphal" or "Pseudepigraphical" manuscripts (known documents from the Second Temple Period like Enoch, Jubilees, Tobit, Sirach, non-canonical psalms, etc., that were not ultimately canonized in the Hebrew Bible), which comprise roughly 30% of the identified scrolls; and "Sectarian" manuscripts (previously unknown documents that speak to the rules and beliefs of a particular group or groups within greater Judaism) like the Community Rule, War Scroll, Pesher (Hebrew pesher פשר = "Commentary") on Habakkuk, and the Rule of the Blessing, which comprise roughly 30% of the identified scrolls.[5]


Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

And another thing, now did it work out with the gf moving in with you? is she still there? did you get married?

Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

leucifer Wrote:Not exactly.

so if 40% were "copies of text from the hebrew bible" then the dead sea scrolls were not used to write the bible?

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:And another thing, now did it work out with the gf moving in with you? is she still there? did you get married?

I did get married, back in the late 90s, but it didn't work out.

Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

leucifer Wrote:I did get married, back in the late 90s, but it didn't work out.

what about the gf moving in? how'd that work out? is she still there?

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:so if 40% were "copies of text from the hebrew bible" then the dead sea scrolls were not used to write the bible?

They may have been, but more importantly they speak to how accurately the bible has been translated over the years. "Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the oldest Hebrew manuscripts of the Bible were Masoretic texts dating to 10th century CE such as the Aleppo Codex. The biblical manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls push that date back a millennium to the 2nd century BCE"

So rather than rely on 10th century documents as a primary source, we can rely on documents that are 2000 years old to see how well the translations have held up over time.

Or something. I really didn't think this was going to end up being a serious thread.

Define: apocryphal - Anhil8tor - 07-12-2010

Do the scrolls say if adultery on the intraweb count in the top 10... or is it the actual thing?

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:what about the gf moving in? how'd that work out? is she still there?

It didn't work out that well, turns out the wife didn't like it, hence the divorce.

Define: apocryphal - Anhil8tor - 07-12-2010

leucifer Wrote:They may have been, but more importantly they speak to how accurately the bible has been translated over the years. "Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the oldest Hebrew manuscripts of the Bible were Masoretic texts dating to 10th century CE such as the Aleppo Codex. The biblical manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls push that date back a millennium to the 2nd century BCE"

So rather than rely on 10th century documents as a primary source, we can rely on documents that are 2000 years old to see how well the translations have held up over time.

Or something. I really didn't think this was going to end up being a serious thread.

So is the bible accurate or is it apocryphal? Are some of the books of the bible completely accurate? Which books are considered apocryphal?

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

Anhil8tor Wrote:So is the bible accurate or is it apocryphal? Are some of the books of the bible completely accurate? Which books are considered apocryphal?

I personally consider the whole bible apocryphal.

Christians believe the bible is accurate and true. The apocryphal books aren't included in the bible things like the books of Enoch (which as I understand it is kinda the first superhero story), Jubilees, Tobit, Sirach. Not part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Gospel of Thomas is also consider apocryphal and not included in the bible.

Define: apocryphal - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 07-12-2010

leucifer Wrote:It didn't work out that well, turns out the wife didn't like it, hence the divorce.

and this happened in the 90's? what about the gf that moved in with you just a few years ago? how'd that work out? is she still there?

Define: apocryphal - BIRD33 - 07-12-2010

If you want to see what the Bible really is and just laugh at it for the rest of your life read this book.

http://www.evolutionofgod.net/

Define: apocryphal - leucifer - 07-12-2010

BIRD33 Wrote:If you want to see what the Bible really is and just laugh at it for the rest of your life read this book.

http://www.evolutionofgod.net/

Added to my Amazon shopping cart, I'll be reading this soon.