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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

Paddy Wrote:What a fucked up system.

Apparently is part of an evolution of the system. Used to be that all of the delegates that came to the convention were free to vote however they wanted. States picked delegates that they trusted to make the decisions. Party leaders, etc. Then, they went to a popular vote to decide how the delegates had to vote. But, to please everyone they left 1/5 of the delegates as the old style that could vote however they wanted.

It is kind of fucked up though. Politics is kind of crazy. No wonder the Shiites and Sunnis can't get anything done.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Apparently is part of an evolution of the system. Used to be that all of the delegates that came to the convention were free to vote however they wanted. States picked delegates that they trusted to make the decisions. Party leaders, etc. Then, they went to a popular vote to decide how the delegates had to vote. But, to please everyone they left 1/5 of the delegates as the old style that could vote however they wanted.

It is kind of fucked up though. Politics is kind of crazy. No wonder the Shiites and Sunnis can't get anything done.

Yea the electoral college is the reason for all the car bombings over there.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-07-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, don't count out Texas yet. Do you think anyone from texas is going to vote for hillary? She'll get hammered here. We've got 228 delegates up for grabs.

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=514

With 193 pledged delegates at stake, Texas is the biggest prize to come in its upcoming March 4 “primary.” Except it’s [I]not mainly a primary.[/I]
126 of those delegates will be chosen at the district level, but differently than in other states where they’ve been allocated based on Congressional district: they’ll be chosen based on totals in 31 state senate districts by [I]caucuses in more than 18,000 precincts. The remaining 67 pledged delegates will be chosen by statewide primary vote.[/I]
So the Texas [I]primary gives only a delegate catch of 67 delegates, less than, say, Minnesota.[/I]
On the same date, in the evening, precinct caucuses will be held across the state and to participate one has to have voted in the primary earlier in the day. That is where the big prize of 126 delegates will be chosen.






How fucking stupid is that.You have to spend all day voting?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-07-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=514

With 193 pledged delegates at stake, Texas is the biggest prize to come in its upcoming March 4 “primary.” Except it’s [I]not mainly a primary.[/I]
126 of those delegates will be chosen at the district level, but differently than in other states where they’ve been allocated based on Congressional district: they’ll be chosen based on totals in 31 state senate districts by [I]caucuses in more than 18,000 precincts. The remaining 67 pledged delegates will be chosen by statewide primary vote.[/I]
So the Texas [I]primary gives only a delegate catch of 67 delegates, less than, say, Minnesota.[/I]
On the same date, in the evening, precinct caucuses will be held across the state and to participate one has to have voted in the primary earlier in the day. That is where the big prize of 126 delegates will be chosen.






How fucking stupid is that.You have to spend all day voting?

Beats the fuck out of me. The Democrats thought it up.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-07-2008

Hilarious! I'm hearing Romney dropped out of the race today and its not even front page on any of the browsers. :lool:

Dude spent $35 million out of pocket?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 02-07-2008

cnn and boston.com have it on the front page

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-07-2008

WoolyGoat Wrote:cnn and boston.com have it on the front page

$35 million and he can't even get the press coverage of the latest president of the mormon church.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 02-07-2008

Gotta respect this comment from Romney:

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Paddy - 02-07-2008

Is Mitt short for Mitten?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-07-2008

WoolyGoat Wrote:Gotta respect this comment from Romney:

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

I ran that through the Flumper translator:

"How fucking stupid would I have to be to spend another $35 million out of my pocket just to get a few more delegates that won't make a hill of beans at the convention. I should have listened to everyone before I started on this ridiculous fantasy."

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-07-2008

WoolyGoat Wrote:Gotta respect this comment from Romney:

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

Are you serious?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 02-07-2008

respect was the wrong word. I just liked his spin.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-08-2008

how much of her own money will Hillary end up spending?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-08-2008

another thing..

how many of these record number of Democratic voters that are Obama supporters will turn around and vote Hillary if she gets the nomination? I'm guessing not many. that could decide the presidential race...in favor of the GOP.

i may be wrong, but I think super delegates can change their support as they please. either way i think it comes down to what takes place in Denver...these last few primaries will be tight again more than likely. i still like Obama's chances in the end. he's running purely on donnation money.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 02-08-2008

hillary will make money on the campaign

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-08-2008

Huckabee an Unlikely VP



http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/greenwald/2362


Interesting.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 02-08-2008

Chef said Hilliary is the best candidate. He will vote for her and he says she'll win the presidency in a landslide.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-10-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:Chef said Hilliary is the best candidate. He will vote for her and he says she'll win the presidency in a landslide.

Chef's vote didn't count for much down there in teh swamp, did it?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-11-2008

cLaY Wrote:how much of her own money will Hillary end up spending?

Wow, way too early to say she is on the ropes. But what a fucked up week-end.

To answer your question, I heard she had to "loan" her campaign $5 million for Super Tuesday. Her fund raising has sucked compared to Obama's during 2008.

Her campaign manager quit this week-end, and she replaced her with a black woman (sounds stupid to me). Obama has won every primary since Super Tuesday and appears to not only have the campaign contributor $$$ momentum, but also the voters momentum now.

I think that every delegate count has him in the lead right now.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - SanDog - 02-11-2008

Superdelegates were put forth by Dems to give the party elders and influencers more say in the nomination process. They could conceivably be the difference makers in the nomination this time around.
I have been watching nothing but Dem speeches and debates and I still can't quite figure out what exactly Obama intends to do. I hear him talking a lot about what should be state issues (healtcare and educations) and not much about national security and taxes (other than rolling back tax cuts, which I hear I did not ask for, or need).
I like change, but not for the sake of change. I want some substance. Cut back spending, balance the budget, fix social security and medicare. These would be nice issuses to address.

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