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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 11-05-2008

any thoughts the he wins 51% or less of the popular vote when its all said and done?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:any thoughts the he wins 51% or less of the popular vote when its all said and done?

I noticed that the popular vote was pretty close all night even though the electoral vote was crazy unbalanced. But I don't care about that. Its the electoral vote that counts and McCain ran a terrible campaign. And Obama ran a brilliant one. Every single thing that Obama targeted worked and almost nothing that McCain targeted worked.

It came down to this. Obama stayed focused on the issues, he remained calm, he never got pissy, he pretty much took the high road the entire campaign. And then the economy tossed him a pretty good one about a month ago. McCain had no message, he had a confusing campaign, he kept changing his strategy trying to find something that worked, and he resorted to attacks. This was not a time when any of that was going to work.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 11-05-2008

not to mention he can't pick his arms above his head...


was it gore that was bitching like nuts when he won the popular vote but got spanked in the electoral college? Also... aren't we due for a census soon? does that change the electoral numbers?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-05-2008

Are there any white people that live in Wash D.C.? Obama got 93% of the vote there. Holy shit!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:not to mention he can't pick his arms above his head...


was it gore that was bitching like nuts when he won the popular vote but got spanked in the electoral college? Also... aren't we due for a census soon? does that change the electoral numbers?

Gore won the popular vote, but didn't really get "spanked" in the electoral vote. If Florida had gone his way instead of Bush's then he would have won. Losing by one state, that had to go to the Supreme Court to decide the recount because it was so close, is not really a spanking. I think with Florida, Bush only had 272 electoral votes.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Historic night indeed. I enjoyed following it and it was sort of like the media couldn't even wrap their minds around what a big deal this was across the country. They kept stumbling through questions and short interviews, but I don't think they were really prepared for the human side of the outcome.

Here's a few thoughts on things I saw last night:

1. How sad was Jesse Jackson standing out in the crowd holding a little flag?

2. Did anyone see Bob Scheiffer and Katie Couric doing the play by play as the votes were coming in? At one point Katie asked Bob, "So what effect do you think that Governor Palin has had on the McCain campaign". He replied, "Oh I think she has definitely hurt his campaign. In fact, Katie, I think that the interview that you did with her probably hurt her more in the eyes of the American people than anything else." Then she said, "Thank you". Thank you?

3. McCain was total class on his concession speech. And he did it pretty early to let Obama have his moment before it got too late.

4. I'm not sure what the official time they called the race was, but around 9:00 CST (10 EST) when McCain lost Pennsylvania, they pretty much called it then. At least Bob Scheiffer did (actually he pretty much called it before the first vote was counted). Officially, I heard Katie Couric announce it at 10:00 CST.

5. Obama's speech was nails. I thought that was his best one yet. But, why did he have to say that "we won't get it done in the first year and we might not get it done in the first term"? Funny that he runs his whole campaign on these things that he is going to get done and then as soon as he's elected announces that he might not can get them done in the first term. Its not that I don't agree with him and understand his point, but I just wonder why he felt that was the right time to spring the news on everyone. I got the feeling he was already trying to lower the bar he had set for himself.

1.Jackson looked funny but him crying looked genuine.

2.Thank you is inappropriate.She hurt with independents big time which is what he needed to win.She helped with the base which helped make it not a historic blowout.If she's the future the GOP is done.

3.McCain gave his best speech of the campaign.The boo's in the crowd were uncalled for and disgusting.

4.I think they could have called it an hour before they did with the way the early results were looking but were gun shy.

5.I think he's realistic.GW would have promised to do it all right away.Obama knows how big a hole we are in and isnt about to bullshit you.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:1.Jackson looked funny but him crying looked genuine.

2.Thank you is inappropriate.She hurt with independents big time which is what he needed to win.She helped with the base which helped make it not a historic blowout.If she's the future the GOP is done.

3.McCain gave his best speech of the campaign.The boo's in the crowd were uncalled for and disgusting.

4.I think they could have called it an hour before they did with the way the early results were looking but were gun shy.

5.I think he's realistic.GW would have promised to do it all right away.Obama knows how big a hole we are in and isnt about to bullshit you.

I was wondering about the tears on Jackson's face and was wondering what was going through his mind. Obama hit on all of the milestones in the history of the black struggle for equality and never once mentioned his name. Honestly, I think his tears were genuine about where that path had led, but I was also wondering if he was wondering how he had gotten out of that parade in history and was left just standing in the crowd.

The Katie Couric comment was beyond inappropriate. But I have not heard one single thing about it today. Surely I couldn't have been the only one that had to catch my breath after hearing that. It was like Katie was on a mission and she was glad to have someone recognize her success.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:not to mention he can't pick his arms above his head...


was it gore that was bitching like nuts when he won the popular vote but got spanked in the electoral college? Also... aren't we due for a census soon? does that change the electoral numbers?

Gore bitched because his opponents father appointed judges that handed him the election even though he could put his arms over his head.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Are there any white people that live in Wash D.C.? Obama got 93% of the vote there. Holy shit!

My sister does.Its a hard core democrat area.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 11-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:My sister does.Its a hard core democrat area.

your sister is white?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I was wondering about the tears on Jackson's face and was wondering what was going through his mind. Obama hit on all of the milestones in the history of the black struggle for equality and never once mentioned his name. Honestly, I think his tears were genuine about where that path had led, but I was also wondering if he was wondering how he had gotten out of that parade in history and was left just standing in the crowd.

The Katie Couric comment was beyond inappropriate. But I have not heard one single thing about it today. Surely I couldn't have been the only one that had to catch my breath after hearing that. It was like Katie was on a mission and she was glad to have someone recognize her success.

The coolest thing about Obama is he won this without the Clintons, Shaprtons or Jacksons help.How many people would have the discipline to not take the easy road with their endorsements?Jackson is just another black guy now.Obama is basically in MLK territory.

The thing with Couric is what was more inappropriate, her saying thank you or a possible VP of the united states having no clue on a majority of issues?I think the GOP just wants to forget that even happened so they'll let it go.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:your sister is white?

She lives in DC.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

fuck yea

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 11-05-2008

As I was watching on ABC they announced Ohio which put Obama in the 200s I think. It was pretty much over by then. McCain had to win every battle ground state after Penn. was given to Obama. What an amazing night. As soon as news broke the west coast had closed polls, it wasn't 10 minutes later the commentator on ABC paused then broke that California, Washington, and Nevada were going to Obama and that he was the new president. I'll never forget that moment for the rest of my life. So amazing to have someone leading our country you believed in from the start. The guy is as monumental as JFK and MLK combined regardless of the fact that he's not even on the job yet. Anyone who associates themselves with the GOP should be ashamed of your party. To think that any of your core beliefs are tied to that mess is embarrassing. What kind of person boos in defeat at the mention of the future president's name? Horrible! God protect Barack Obama...guys like Anhil8tor can't get past his skin color. And kudus to Flumper for seeing through all that crap even though your party lost.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 11-05-2008

Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Paddy - 11-05-2008

cLaY Wrote:kudus to Flumper

Flumper doesn't give a shit about this stuff anymore, he just wants to push this thread to it's 1st anniversary.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

Emanuel is a shark.He doesnt take any shit which will be needed.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

I keep hearing Hillary to the supreme court once one of those fuckers dies or retires.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 11-05-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:3.McCain gave his best speech of the campaign.The boo's in the crowd were uncalled for and disgusting.

Didn't chicago have all its police on force last night and weren't they expecting huge riots if Obama lost?

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