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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

Quote:Katie Couric: Sen. McCain, why is it necessary for you to take this extraordinary step of suspending your campaign?

John McCain: 'Cause these are extraordinary times. The financial crisis is on the verge of a very, very serious, most serious crisis since the end of World War II. That's according to Mr. Bernanke, Secretary Paulson and others. Any expert. This is a most serious situation. And it could … not only be United States markets, but world markets as well.

Couric: In fact, you met with economists this morning, and a number of financial experts, and it seems to me they really shook you up.

McCain: All they did, really, was confirm what we're already hearing from people we most admire and respect in America. The most respected people. I don't, in fact, I don't know anyone that doesn't believe that … this crisis is of such enormous proportions that it has the possibility, I don't think it's gonna, 'cause I think we're gonna act, but could have the possibility of wrecking the economy in ways that we've never contemplated.

Couric: Do you and Sen. Obama agree to the changes that need to be made in this bailout package?

McCain: We certainly agree the some. We said - we have - we have some, not all. But, certainly some. We have some common ground, yes.

Couric: And what are your primary objections to the way it stands right now?

McCain: There are numerous ones. One is that there's not the transparency that I think is necessary. I think we need to have, clearly, oversight. People that we respect and admire from both parties. Like Mayor Bloomberg of New York … and Mitt Romney and others … to oversight this.

And I also think we need to seriously consider something along the lines of what we had during the Depression. To guarantee home loans. I think that's necessary. There are a number of other measures that I think need to be taken in order to convince the American people that a trillion dollars or $700 billion, depending on who you talk to, of their money, that's $10,000 per family in America.

Couric: I know that Sen. Obama initially called you this morning at 8:30 to talk about issuing a joint statement about this bailout. You decided to go a step further by suspending your campaign and asking that Friday debate be delayed. Political observers say whoever gets out front on this issue will benefit the most in November. Was this an effort to do that? And was this at all, Senator, politically motivated?

McCain: Well, I don't think, at this time, that we can worry much about politics, Katie. I think the American people expect more of us. And I would hope that we would respond that way. Senator Obama called this morning. We - I called him back. We discussed that we do agree, and I'd be glad … to join in a common press release or statement, but now is not the time for statements. Time is now to act. And … most experts …

Couric: Did you suggest suspending both of your campaigns?

McCain: Yes. Sure. Yeah. I said …

Couric: And what was his response?

McCain: Well, I'd - I, frankly, I think he … has to consider it. I don't know if he had considered it or not. But I did tell him that I thought we both ought to do that. On the subject of delaying the debates, we've got 41 days left in this campaign. We could move it up a few days. Because we know we have to act. Everybody that I, well, look, it's clear to me we have to act before the weekend. We have to show the markets, the world markets, that we're gonna address this issue seriously.

Okay, there is the transcript of everything said on that news cast with Katie Couric. Where in there is he doing damage control for Sarah Palin's failed interview?

You've accused him of that several times in your last few posts.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Okay, there is the transcript of everything said on that news cast with Katie Couric. Where in there is he doing damage control for Sarah Palin's failed interview?

You've accused him of that several times in your last few posts.

I'm starting to realize you don't read to good.Palins interview if you remember was roundly mocked when the first parts came out and Mccain who was never scheduled to appear went on to deflect attention from her because which didnt work because the second part was where she said she could see russia from her house.Its pretty simple if you pay attention and not depend on transcripts like thats the only thing that was going on and nothing was happening behind the scenes.

So are you now accepting that Mccain calling Letterman personally and saying he was going to washington so he had to cancel his apperance was a lie?Why else would lettermen be so pissed?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Paddy - 10-17-2008

I don't get to vote. Result!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'm starting to realize you don't read to good.Palins interview if you remember was roundly mocked when the first parts came out and Mccain who was never scheduled to appear went on to deflect attention from her because which didnt work because the second part was where she said she could see russia from her house.Its pretty simple if you pay attention and not depend on transcripts like thats the only thing that was going on and nothing was happening behind the scenes.

So are you now accepting that Mccain calling Letterman personally and saying he was going to washington so he had to cancel his apperance was a lie?Why else would lettermen be so pissed?

So what part of him announcing the severity of the Bailout plan not passing and how he was suspending his campaign and might miss the debate was doing damage control for Sarah Palin's interview? If you pointed it out, I missed it.

Just quote the part of the interview you consider to be damage control. Thanks.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:So what part of him announcing the severity of the Bailout plan not passing and how he was suspending his campaign and might miss the debate was doing damage control for Sarah Palin's interview? If you pointed it out, I missed it.

Just quote the part of the interview you consider to be damage control. Thanks.

Obviously you had to be paying attention to the moment and can't understand the dynamics of the situation just by reading transcripts(Fuck I'm smart).

I'm not the only person who viewed it this way and if you can remember all the way back to before the bailout and the economic mess became the major story of the day Palins scary lack of any clue of what it means to be president was the story gaining the most steam.

I think the McCain campaign knew the Couric interview would be a disaster as soon as it was done taping and spent much of the day frantically trying to think of a way to push it out of the headlines. The clincher for me is the fact that McCain cancelled his Letterman appearance at the last second and instead sat down for an impromptu interview with, of all people, Katie Couric. The hope was to bump the Palin interview even on the CBS Evening News, which otherwise would have hyped and teased the Palin interview all afternoon and used it to lead the broadcast. Instead, CBS devoted most of its coverage to McCain and played segments of the Palin interview almost as an afterthought. Mission accomplished.
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/09/was-mccains-stunt-attempt-at-palin.html

I can already hear your rebuttal "A liberal wrote that" but it doesnt mean it makes no sense.

Thanks for finally capitulating on mccain lying to letterman.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Obviously you had to be paying attention to the moment and can't understand the dynamics of the situation just by reading transcripts(Fuck I'm smart).

I'm not the only person who viewed it this way and if you can remember all the way back to before the bailout and the economic mess became the major story of the day Palins scary lack of any clue of what it means to be president was the story gaining the most steam.

I think the McCain campaign knew the Couric interview would be a disaster as soon as it was done taping and spent much of the day frantically trying to think of a way to push it out of the headlines. The clincher for me is the fact that McCain cancelled his Letterman appearance at the last second and instead sat down for an impromptu interview with, of all people, Katie Couric. The hope was to bump the Palin interview even on the CBS Evening News, which otherwise would have hyped and teased the Palin interview all afternoon and used it to lead the broadcast. Instead, CBS devoted most of its coverage to McCain and played segments of the Palin interview almost as an afterthought. Mission accomplished.
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/09/was-mccains-stunt-attempt-at-palin.html

I can already hear your rebuttal "A liberal wrote that" but it doesnt mean it makes no sense.

Thanks for finally capitulating on mccain lying to letterman.

How clever of McCain to stage an economic meltdown of the worlds largest financial superpower so that he could get on the news to bump a teaser of the Palin interview from the news.

Jesus, man. How do you concoct these theories.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-18-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:How clever of McCain to stage an economic meltdown of the worlds largest financial superpower so that he could get on the news to bump a teaser of the Palin interview from the news.

Jesus, man. How do you concoct these theories.

Two birds with one stone.Its the smart move.I get why you don't understand.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-18-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Two birds with one stone.Its the smart move.I get why you don't understand.

The only remote thing that I can see about your conspiracy theory is that he chose to make his public statement on Couric's news show. Beyond that, it sounds like a typical political spin story.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-18-2008

Did he lie to letterman?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-18-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Did he lie to letterman?

No.

Is Letterman a little bitch?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-18-2008

Paddy Wrote:I don't get to vote. Result!

pity

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-18-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-18-2008

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6060110

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-20-2008

Hey Flumper, you're the queer that went to A & M right?How bout the paper in college station endorsing Obama mainly because of the Palin pick?Its supposedly very shocking for that area.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-20-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Hey Flumper, you're the queer that went to A & M right?How bout the paper in college station endorsing Obama mainly because of the Palin pick?Its supposedly very shocking for that area.

I hadn't heard that, but it doesn't surprise me. The A&M newspaper has always been a radical paper. The people that do that paper are not representative of that community. I remember when I was in school, the paper had the whole university up in arms because they were pushing for the Gay Student Organization to be recognized as a formal university organization. They just take opposing views to stir shit.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-20-2008

early voting begins today in florida

the polling places i went by were packed

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-20-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I hadn't heard that, but it doesn't surprise me. The A&M newspaper has always been a radical paper. The people that do that paper are not representative of that community. I remember when I was in school, the paper had the whole university up in arms because they were pushing for the Gay Student Organization to be recognized as a formal university organization. They just take opposing views to stir shit.

Interesting.I read somewhere from other students its not as liberal as you paint it.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-20-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Interesting.I read somewhere from other students its not as liberal as you paint it.

I actually went back and read the article. Its a pretty good endorsement and doesn't sound like a pot stirring type of thing.

I really have no idea how the concensus of students are leaning at a&m right now, but I would suspect that if the vote were held with only students at a&m voting, that McCain would win. Just a guess. I'm pretty certain that if their parents were the only one voting that McCain could go ahead and start moving into the Oval Office.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-20-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I actually went back and read the article. Its a pretty good endorsement and doesn't sound like a pot stirring type of thing.

I really have no idea how the concensus of students are leaning at a&m right now, but I would suspect that if the vote were held with only students at a&m voting, that McCain would win. Just a guess. I'm pretty certain that if their parents were the only one voting that McCain could go ahead and start moving into the Oval Office.

Thats pretty much what I read.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-20-2008

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