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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

He can't get elected by winning the hick states.If he doesnt win California he's finished.The hispanics will deliver it for Hillary.It makes sense with all the female presidents in south america.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He can't get elected by winning the hick states.If he doesnt win California he's finished.The hispanics will deliver it for Hillary.It makes sense with all the female presidents in south america.

Looking that way. He made a pretty good push there this past week. I like his chances.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Obama promised to prosecute people who get made over internet posts and call peoples employers.

...and rack this.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

A Mccain\Huckabee ticket will be a complete disaster.I couldnt be more pleased.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Paddy - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:A MccainHuckabee ticket will be a complete disaster.

Why so?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Paddy Wrote:Why so?

Mccain is old and if you watch his victory speeches he's very uninspiring.Huckabee is literally only on the ticket to get the base to vote for Mccain because if he wasnt no one from the south would vote for him.Huckabee adds absolutly nothing but that and really turns off independents with his ideas about gays and evolution.Its just a very weak ticket especially when its looking like the economy will be the big issue along with Iraq.Mccain has admitted he is not an expert on the economy and he plans to stay for literally 100 years in Iraq which I think will repel voters.

If its Obama he wins in a landslide, if its Clinton she wins by 5%.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:A MccainHuckabee ticket will be a complete disaster.I couldnt be more pleased.

Did you see Joe Liebermann at the McCain rally last night? He's backing McCain for president. How fucking weird is that?

Anway, think there would be a chance for a McCain/Liebermann ticket? I mean, this is going to be one of the wackiest elections every, why not have father time and a jew?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He can't get elected by winning the hick states.If he doesnt win California he's finished.The hispanics will deliver it for Hillary.It makes sense with all the female presidents in south america.

Hillary only got 52% of California. That's not exactly a landslide. This is still too close to call and Edwards is still picking up some votes. Not sure how that effects the delegates.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Did you see Joe Liebermann at the McCain rally last night? He's backing McCain for president. How fucking weird is that?

Anway, think there would be a chance for a McCain/Liebermann ticket? I mean, this is going to be one of the wackiest elections every, why not have father time and a jew?

Theres a small possibility but Lieberman already was on a losing ticket so why would Mcain want that baggage?Lieberman isnt popular enough with Democrats anymore to think he could deliver anything.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Another reason is Liebermans a jew and Mccain is already having a hard time getting the gop base of christian conservatives to vote for him.Huckabee basically sealed the vp spot for himself last night.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Another reason is Liebermans a jew and Mccain is already having a hard time getting the gop base of christian conservatives to vote for him.Huckabee basically sealed the vp spot for himself last night.

Well, I have news for McCain. Unless he can pull out some kind of miracle running mate (other than Huckabee) he might as well give up. McCain/Huckabee ticket won't do shit against anybody. Hell Edwards could beat that matchup.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Well, I have news for McCain. Unless he can pull out some kind of miracle running mate (other than Huckabee) he might as well give up. McCain/Huckabee ticket won't do shit against anybody. Hell Edwards could beat that matchup.

Mccain against Hillary makes me real nervous.If he picks up Huckabee he'll have that core base of evangelicals turning out along with the hardcore clintons haters of the 90's.She will get the gop fired up and depending on her running mate that might be enough.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

Is this Right?

Total Delegate Update:

Obama 838
Clinton 834
Edwards 26

McCain 720
Romney 256
Huckabee 194

Obama is in the lead? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22997326/

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Is this Right?

Total Delegate Update:

Obama 838
Clinton 834
Edwards 26

McCain 720
Romney 256
Huckabee 194

Obama is in the lead?

Yup.When you put in Pennsylvania and some other states that are leaning hillary that havent voted she's in the lead.I just read an article that Pennsylvania could be this years Ohio for the Dems.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Yup.When you put in Pennsylvania and some other states that are leaning hillary that havent voted she's in the lead.I just read an article that Pennsylvania could be this years Ohio for the Dems.

Dude, don't count out Texas yet. Do you think anyone from texas is going to vote for hillary? She'll get hammered here. We've got 228 delegates up for grabs.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

Hillary has got to be feeling like an idiot this morning. I know most people were predicting it to be close, but he's actually in the lead. And when you could in the fact that Edwards is planning to throw most of his delegates Obama's way, that makes his lead even more. I know its not over. But on her worst prediction, Hillary probably thought she'd only have about a 100 delegate lead right now.

Rack that balck muslim bastard!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-06-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Hillary has got to be feeling like an idiot this morning. I know most people were predicting it to be close, but he's actually in the lead. And when you could in the fact that Edwards is planning to throw most of his delegates Obama's way, that makes his lead even more. I know its not over. But on her worst prediction, Hillary probably thought she'd only have about a 100 delegate lead right now.

Rack that balck muslim bastard!

Theres a thing called super delegates which I don't understand which she may have more of which means despite those numbers she's in the lead.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Theres a thing called super delegates which I don't understand which she may have more of which means despite those numbers she's in the lead.

Yeah, I think that super delegates get to vote anyway that they want in the convention. Some states have them, but not sure how they are divided up. I have heard that some have committed to Obama, but not sure if that is an iron clad thing. Kind of like high school commitment day. Doesn't count until they sign.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-06-2008

Quote:Superdelegates are delegates to a presidential nominating convention in the United States who are not legally bound by the decisions of party primaries or caucuses. Superdelegates are current elected officeholders and current party officials as well as former elected officeholders and former party officials. They are sometimes referred to as "unpledged delegates," but some unpledged delegates are not superdelegates[citation needed]. In addition, some elected officeholder delegates and party official delegates are pledged.

Superdelegates were first appointed in the 1970s, after control of the nomination process in the Democratic Party effectively moved out of the hands of party officials into the primary and caucus process. The aim was to grant some say in the process to people who had been playing roles in the party before the election year.

It appears that most people are projecting that the superdelegates are voting like this:

Clinton 201
Obama 110

I think they said that about 1/5 of the delegates that vote at the convention are Super Delegates.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Paddy - 02-06-2008

What a fucked up system.

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