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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 10-17-2008

I have a feeling the republican nominee for 2012 will be Bobby Jindal. The dems are gonna slaughter his name...

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, I'm not making a political statement out of this. I'm simply saying that you have an elderly statesman, war veteran, running for president and he's taking smack from a pompous ass talk show host. I just think its about respect if nothing else.

do former POW's have license to lie to people and get away with it?Thats basically what you are saying.I'm from the world where I give respect to people who show me respect no matter who they are or what they've done.Lie to me and you can go fuck yourself.

Smart move dropping the terrible Obama comparison.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:I have a feeling the republican nominee for 2012 will be Bobby Jindal. The dems are gonna slaughter his name...

You only wish that was true.Its got to be sad to be in your party right now.All you guys know is personal attacks and racist innuendo.Maybe one of our black democrats or Arab democrats or Jewish democrats will make fun of his name.That makes sense.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 10-17-2008

it'll be brought up.


I guarantee.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

By who?The gay\black\latino\ democratic party?Give me a break.You assume your neighbors are just like everyone else in America.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:do former POW's have license to lie to people and get away with it?Thats basically what you are saying.I'm from the world where I give respect to people who show me respect no matter who they are or what they've done.Lie to me and you can go fuck yourself.

Smart move dropping the terrible Obama comparison.

Show me a link that says that he "lied". I have never heard this until you mentioned it. I know he suspended his campaign to go back to Washington. And I think that was exactly the reason he cancelled. Now if something else came up and he went there before Washington, show me the link.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Show me a link that says that he "lied". I have never heard this until you mentioned it. I know he suspended his campaign to go back to Washington. And I think that was exactly the reason he cancelled. Now if something else came up and he went there before Washington, show me the link.

I'm going to Washington to save the economy so I can't be on your program.

Actually I'm in New York doing a different interview.

How is that not a lie?

Tell me I really needed to spell that out.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'm going to Washington to save the economy so I can't be on your program.

Actually I'm in New York doing a different interview.

How is that not a lie?

Tell me I really needed to spell that out.

First I've heard of it and i still don't see any links with dates and stuff to back it up. I think you made the whole thing up.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:First I've heard of it and i still don't see any links with dates and stuff to back it up. I think you made the whole thing up.

So explain to me why letterman is pissed?How could you just post 3 times on this defending mccain and even bring Obama into this like he did the same thing without knowing what actually happened?Hilarious.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:So explain to me why letterman is pissed?How could you just post 3 times on this defending mccain and even bring Obama into this like he did the same thing without knowing what actually happened?Hilarious.

Because first of all, I think Letterman was just flat out a fucking ass last night. Regardless of why McCain cancelled on him.

Meanwhile, I just googled everything I could think of to find out if there was anything about him "lying" about it and I find nothing. It wasn't even mentioned last night on the show except when Letterman said something like, "....and you didn't even go to Washington".

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Because first of all, I think Letterman was just flat out a fucking ass last night. Regardless of why McCain cancelled on him.

Meanwhile, I just googled everything I could think of to find out if there was anything about him "lying" about it and I find nothing. It wasn't even mentioned last night on the show except when Letterman said something like, "....and you didn't even go to Washington".

The situation went down exactly as I described it.Look it up.Would you call that a lie?(cue the intellectual dishonesty and the stretching of the truth)

I think any normal person would but its a month before the election and nobody wants to call the war hero a liar because even if its true mccain looks like the victim.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:The situation went down exactly as I described it.Look it up.Would you call that a lie?(cue the intellectual dishonesty and the stretching of the truth)

I think any normal person would but its a month before the election and nobody wants to call the war hero a liar because even if its true mccain looks like the victim.

Ok. Found it. McCain went on Couric's news show to announce that he was suspending his campaign to go to Washington and deal with the Bailout. And he might have to cancel the debate with Obama.

Quote:updated 6:02 p.m. CT, Tues., Sept. 30, 2008

NEW YORK - After two years of stories about bad ratings and an uncertain future, Katie Couric is back to making news the old-fashioned way — with her work.

This comes after getting John McCain to come by her studio last week on the day he announced the suspension of his campaign and — much to David Letterman’s chagrin — use that venue to explain his decision to the American people.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:The situation went down exactly as I described it.Look it up.Would you call that a lie?(cue the intellectual dishonesty and the stretching of the truth)

You don't consider that you are "stretching the truth". He tells Letterman he has to cancel to get to Washington to deal with the bailout, then he goes on Courics news show to explain to the American people the severity of the bailout and how it is falling apart and that he is suspending his campaign and that this might mean cancelling the debate with Obama.

And you call that a lie? Would you have preferred that he go to Letterman's Late night delayed telecast show and make a news announcement that he is suspending his campaign?

Get serious.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Ok. Found it. McCain went on Couric's news show to announce that he was suspending his campaign to go to Washington and deal with the Bailout. And he might have to cancel the debate with Obama.

Wrong.He went because his advisors where freaking out about how bad Palin looked in the interview and Mccain needed to put out the impending fire by showing how capable he was to make people forget how unqualified Palin is.Thats why they were seated next to each other.I paid attention to this, you doing 10 minutes of google now doesnt mean you understand how it went down.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Wrong.He went because his advisors where freaking out about how bad Palin looked in the interview and Mccain needed to put out the impending fire by showing how capable he was to make people forget how unqualified Palin is.Thats why they were seated next to each other.I paid attention to this, you doing 10 minutes of google now doesnt mean you understand how it went down.

Well, he might have picked her "newscast" to put a bandaid on the Palin interview, but he rushed to a live newscast to make that announcement because he wanted to get on the news in front of the American people about his committment to the Bailout before Obama got a chance to.

I know what he was doing. He was trying to one-up Obama on the Bailout thing and make it look like he was taking it more serious than Obama was. I'm not trying to change any of that.

But do you seriously think that the place to do that would have been on the David Letterman show that is tape delayed about 6 hours or more?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Well, he might have picked her "newscast" to put a bandaid on the Palin interview, but he rushed to a live newscast to make that announcement because he wanted to get on the news in front of the American people about his committment to the Bailout before Obama got a chance to.

I know what he was doing. He was trying to one-up Obama on the Bailout thing and make it look like he was taking it more serious than Obama was. I'm not trying to change any of that.

But do you seriously think that the place to do that would have been on the David Letterman show that is tape delayed about 6 hours or more?

All he had to do was say I'm going on CBS News to announce my campaign suspension.Instead he said he couldnt do Letterman because he was going to Washington immediately.He didnt go to Washington that day so its a lie.He could have easily handled this with out lying.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:All he had to do was say I'm going on CBS News to announce my campaign suspension.Instead he said he couldnt do Letterman because he was going to Washington immediately.He didnt go to Washington that day so its a lie.He could have easily handled this with out lying.

wow. and you accuse the GOP of stretching the facts?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:wow. and you accuse the GOP of stretching the facts?

Now that your up to speed 10 posts after you started reflexively defending Mccain explain to me how I stretched the truth.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Now that your up to speed 10 posts after you started reflexively defending Mccain explain to me how I stretched the truth.

Well, I don't keep a political diary of day to day events. But now I remember that day and it is a huge stretch for you to call what he did a lie.

And it is exactly like what Obama did when he cancelled SNL. Obama cancelled SNL to let the American people know that he was more concerned about the safety of the people on the gulf coast than he was about yuking it up on a comedy show. I get that. Although he didn't rush to the coast and do anything, his point was made.

McCain did the same thing. The bailout was in jeopardy. The economic crisis was unravelling. McCain put that above going on Letterman and cracking jokes for 30 minutes. Now I don't know how he worded what he was going to do when he talked to Letterman. I'm sure he said something like, "I can't do the show. This bailout thing is more important and I am suspending my campaign until it gets done. I'm going to stop the campaign and get back to Washington and see that this bill gets passed". Whatever he said.

It is a stupid stretch to say that he lied. Sounds like typical political spin to me.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

This isnt about weather going on Lettermen was the right thing to do during an economic crisis.If you read my posts you'll see I never even came close to saying he wasnt right to not go on.He handled it by lying is what I and I assume Lettermen have the problem with.

I can't appear on your show Mr. Lettermen because I am going to washington to work on the economy.

Reality: I'm not leaving New York at all, in fact I'll be down the block doing damage control because my vp is incompetent.

Thats a lie you are looking at.Christ your kid must get away with murder if this is the level of bullshit you'll accept as the truth.

I honestly think you are fucking with me your argument seems so dense.

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