So I was watching the State of the Union last night....

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-16-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:So what.

So I know quite a bit about Bob Scheiffer and he is a staunch Democrat. Always has been.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:So I know quite a bit about Bob Scheiffer and he is a staunch Democrat. Always has been.

sort of like Joe Liberman?

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:sort of like Joe Liberman?

Nothing like Joe Liberman.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Mccain did better but he still lost.

Mccain switching from ayers to why its important to fix the economy like there is any correlation was laughable.ayers doesnt work with voters, its pointless.Willie horton played on peoples fear of crime, Swiftboating was about having a president able to deal with terrorism honorably(ironically) but ayers has nothing to do with what voters care about.

Like I said 6 months ago,Obama wins by 10.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Mccain did better but he still lost.

Mccain switching from ayers to why its important to fix the economy like there is any correlation was laughable.ayers doesnt work with voters, its pointless.Willie horton played on peoples fear of crime, Swiftboating was about having a president able to deal with terrorism honorably(ironically) but ayers has nothing to do with what voters care about.

Like I said 6 months ago,Obama wins by 10.

I do think that it is shaping up like a landslide. Republicans are not going to turn out to vote. Democrats are going to be afraid not to turn out, for fear that they could get another election stolen away. They have been wrong before going into an election and aren't going to let that happen again.

I'll bet this election gets called before the west coast polls close.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

You know, this election has gotten me thinking about Al Gore claiming to have won the popular vote and losing the electoral vote. I know that plays into the hands of all of the people that worked so hard on his campaign, to give them something they can hold on to. But the reality of that is that it is just a bunch of bullshit.

If the election was about popular vote, then lots of people (like me) would vote knowing that it mattered. If you are in a state like Texas, and the republican candidate is a lock on the state, then its sort of a waste of time to vote unless you have something else you are voting on.

Its like taking an SAT test where they don't count the written essay. But one student works hard to do a good job on it and another one that knows it doesn't count just blows it off. Then the kid with the lower SAT score, but higher essay score bitches that he really had the higher score.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Gores issue was how they counted the florida vote and it ultimately went to the supreme court which Bush's father had influence over.If it came to the popular vote Texas still wouldnt matter.Its the popular centers in the northeast that would have all the sway.Remember that something like over 60% of the US population lives within 3 hours of Atlantic City.Add in California which is usually always democrat the GOP would be fucked for life.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Gores issue was how they counted the florida vote and it ultimately went to the supreme court which Bush's father had influence over.If it came to the popular vote Texas still wouldnt matter.Its the popular centers in the northeast that would have all the sway.Remember that something like over 60% of the US population lives within 3 hours of Atlantic City.Add in California which is usually always democrat the GOP would be fucked for life.

My point is that you can't compare the popular vote and the electoral vote and I thought it was pretty shallow of Gore and even some people to this day to belabor the point that he won the popular vote, so how can he not be president. Rules are rules.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

Holy shit, David Letterman couldn't have been a bigger dick to John McCain last night.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Have you ever heard of bookies paying out before a result?

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/16/dont-be-on-it-bookies-bank-on-obama-win-pay-out-ea/

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Holy shit, David Letterman couldn't have been a bigger dick to John McCain last night.

I saw that.Mccain not having a good excuse is what made letterman be a dick.Lettermen could have called him a liar if he wanted to and it would have been true.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I saw that.Mccain not having a good excuse is what made letterman be a dick.Lettermen could have called him a liar if he wanted to.

I think if I had been McCain I would have told him to stick his show straight up his ass.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:My point is that you can't compare the popular vote and the electoral vote and I thought it was pretty shallow of Gore and even some people to this day to belabor the point that he won the popular vote, so how can he not be president. Rules are rules.

When you put the fact that he won the popular vote next to the fact that the election was basically decided by people who Bush's father appointed it doesnt look shallow at all.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I think if I had been McCain I would have told him to stick his show straight up his ass.

Mccain basically admitted he lied last night if you were paying attention.

He told letterman he had to go back to washington to rescue the economy and instead he went and did a damage control interview with Couric in New York because her Palin interview exposed how unready she is to be president.That was the one where Mccain looked like he was sitting next to his daughter in the principles office.

Mccain didnt dispute anything letterman said and admitted he screwed up.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Mccain basically admitted he lied last night if you were paying attention.

He told letterman he had to go back to washington to rescue the economy and instead he went and did a damage control interview with Couric in New York because her Palin interview exposed how unready she is to be president.That was the one where Mccain looked like he was sitting next to his daughter in the principles office.

Mccain didnt dispute anything letterman said and admitted he screwed up.

He lied? Did Obama lie when he cancelled SNL because of Hurricane Ike? Did SNL cry like a bitch and try to make a fool of him because of it?

I just really thought it was in poor taste and looked more like something Howard Stern would do.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:He lied? Did Obama lie when he cancelled SNL because of Hurricane Ike? Did SNL cry like a bitch and try to make a fool of him because of it?

I just really thought it was in poor taste and looked more like something Howard Stern would do.

Are you paying attention?The lie was he was going to washington to save the economy when he was actually staying in New York to do another TV show.Obama did what he said he was going to do,Mccain didnt.Pretty simple to follow really.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Oh and if we have to worry about our president not being able to keep his lies straight with a comedian we are fucked.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Are you paying attention?The lie was he was going to washington to save the economy when he was actually staying in New York to do another TV show.Obama did what he said he was going to do,Mccain didnt.Pretty simple to follow really.

And what exactly did Obama do? Oh yeah, he drove to Galveston and put sandbags on top of the seawall.

Geez. Letterman was a fucking ass and that's all there is to it. Letterman wasn't being an ass because McCain changed his schedule and missed his show. I'm sure that happens all the time. Letterman was an ass because he's a liberal pompous fucktard.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-17-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:And what exactly did Obama do? Oh yeah, he drove to Galveston and put sandbags on top of the seawall.

Geez. Letterman was a fucking ass and that's all there is to it. Letterman wasn't being an ass because McCain changed his schedule and missed his show. I'm sure that happens all the time. Letterman was an ass because he's a liberal pompous fucktard.

Seriously?You don't see a difference in telling someone you are going to cancel to show respect to hurricane victims and telling someone you are going to cancel to go to washington to save the economy and then stay in New York and do something totally unrelated to the economy?If Obama would have done Mad Tv that weekend your comparison would make a little bit of sense.

I'm pretty sure you get why even Mccain himself acknowledges he made a mistake but you have to twist the truth just enough to make it seem like you arent backing a total douchebag.Thats called intellectual dishonesty which has been the hallmark of the republican party for everything from Iraq to saying Obama is going to raise taxes when everyone agree's taxes will not go up for 95% of americans.You can keep doing it if you want but you might want to take a look around at where all this intellectual dishonesty has gotten your party since the check just came in for 8 years of it and your party is in shambles.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-17-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Seriously?You don't see a difference in telling someone you are going to cancel to show respect to hurricane victims and telling someone you are going to cancel to go to washington to save the economy and then stay in New York and do something totally unrelated to the economy?If Obama would have done Mad Tv that weekend your comparison would make a little bit of sense.

I'm pretty sure you get why even Mccain himself acknowledges he made a mistake but you have to twist the truth just enough to make it seem like you arent backing a total douchebag.Thats called intellectual dishonesty which has been the hallmark of the republican party for everything from Iraq to saying Obama is going to raise taxes when everyone agree's taxes will not go up for 95% of americans.You can keep doing it if you want but you might want to take a look around at where all this intellectual dishonesty has gotten your party since the check just came in for 8 years of it and your party is in shambles.

Dude, I'm not making a political statement out of this. I'm simply saying that you have an elderly statesman, war veteran, running for president and he's taking smack from a pompous ass talk show host. I just think its about respect if nothing else.