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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-14-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Thats a joke right?Obama's got a plan that I'm basing these predictions off of.What plan did Bush have to get greeted as liberators?Assumptions and plans are not one in the same.

Plan. Try and come up with health insurance that people can afford.

Assumption. People will buy insurance for their kids if you make it affordable enough.


Plan. Take a savage dictator out of control, throw out his government, rid the country of his political party that has killed so many people, and free the people to be ruled democratically.

Assumption. If people are free from tyranical dictatorship to govern themselves democratically, then they will greet you immediately as a liberator.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

you're embarrassing yourself.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-14-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:you're embarrassing yourself.

I"m just sayin'. You can't come up with a plan and then if people don't do what you expect them to do, then you can't sit back and say, "Well its not my fault they don't do it."

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

You know what I can't wait for and mark my words it will be sweet...When Obama wins this and he's not worried about getting people to vote for him it will be great to see him unload on people who bring up ridiculous arguments similar to the one flumper just tried to pass off.He's afraid now to seem to snooty or like a know it all but you know if the guy got to this point he's capable of eviscerating some of the typical republican bullshitters that trot out the same tired points.I can't wait.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I"m just sayin'. You can't come up with a plan and then if people don't do what you expect them to do, then you can't sit back and say, "Well its not my fault they don't do it."

The difference is Obama has numbers approved by impartial economists to back up his plan.

Bush had the "Hey I like me,why wouldnt they like me?" type of "facts" to back up his plan.Keep in mind they were saying there was no evidence of Sunni's and Shiites hating each other which could lead to a civil war even though it was going on for a 1000 years.

I repeat this line of thinking is embarrassing.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-14-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:You know what I can't wait for and mark my words it will be sweet...When Obama wins this and he's not worried about getting people to vote for him it will be great to see him unload on people who bring up ridiculous arguments similar to the one flumper just tried to pass off.He's afraid now to seem to snooty or like a know it all but you know if the guy got to this point he's capable of eviscerating some of the typical republican bullshitters that trot out the same tired points.I can't wait.

Unload by giving speeches? Yeah that will be the change we've needed.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'll be behind him 100% when he's elected. I hope he can do the things that he wants to do without taxing the shit out of all of us. And by "us" I mean the ones that write payroll checks every week. I'm not wishing him to fail, if that is what you think.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Unload by giving speeches? Yeah that will be the change we've needed.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'll be behind him 100% when he's elected. I hope he can do the things that he wants to do without taxing the shit out of all of us. And by "us" I mean the ones that write payroll checks every week. I'm not wishing him to fail, if that is what you think.

I'm sure you're not.You and I know taxes need to be raised.We've been pissing away money.

I think he's a little penned in because he doesnt want to turn people off but once he's elected he won't be afraid to smack some of these assholes around like the Tom Delays of the world.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-14-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'm sure you're not.You and I know taxes need to be raised.We've been pissing away money.

I think he's a little penned in because he doesnt want to turn people off but once he's elected he won't be afraid to smack some of these assholes around like the Tom Delays of the world.

Yeah, I'm sure that he is going to be wanting to give a little back. But he really doesn't come across to me as the kind of guy that would waste a lot of time with that. Along with the fact that I think he is smart enough to know that there is no time to burn any bridges. I know one thing for sure though, he is going to get a personal kick out of how many of the pundits turn into major ass kissers overnight.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - leeman - 10-14-2008

:fuckYou:

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

Someone explain to me why the state of Michigan with a majority white population who have strong anti muslim feelings since there is a large minority of Arabs living there has Obama favored by 16 points even though Obama is the guy who went there during the primaries and told them he wasnt going to help the auto industry?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 10-14-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Someone explain to me why the state of Michigan with a majority white population who have strong anti muslim feelings since there is a large minority of Arabs living there has Obama favored by 16 points even though Obama is the guy who went there during the primaries and told them he wasnt going to help the auto industry?

big labor state
and the economy

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-14-2008

Their labor is the auto industry which he told to fuck off in the primaries.I think it has more to do with McCain.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-16-2008

This is clever.Click on the shit in her office.

http://palinaspresident.com/

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-16-2008

McCain should mop the debate floor with Obama tonight. Crazy format with 10 minutes for answers and the candidates can ask each other questions.

Only problem is that left wing liberal nutjob Bob Scheiffer is moderating. He'll probably be sucking Obama's dick between questions.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-16-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:McCain should mop the debate floor with Obama tonight. Crazy format with 10 minutes for answers and the candidates can ask each other questions.

Only problem is that left wing liberal nutjob Bob Scheiffer is moderating. He'll probably be sucking Obama's dick between questions.

Ouch.I hate to be the bearer of proof that you're an illiterate jerkoff but as far as where Bob Schiefers loyalties may lie you might be interested in knowing that Bob Sheifers brother was appointed ambassador to Japan by GW Bush.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-16-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 10-16-2008

http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/new_father_names_baby_after_republican_ticket/15054/

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-16-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Ouch.I hate to be the bearer of proof that you're an illiterate jerkoff but as far as where Bob Schiefers loyalties may lie you might be interested in knowing that Bob Sheifers brother was appointed ambassador to Japan by GW Bush.

Dude, I'm pretty damn aware of Bob Scheiffer and his loyalties. One of my good friends is married to his sister. I've met him a few times. And his brother, the one GWB sent to Japan, was the guy that made GWB so much money with the Rangers.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-16-2008

Final Debate Wrap-Up:

McCain did his best job so far, and it wasn't that good. He stumbled too much through his words, didn't pounce on topics when they were ripe for attack, and generally looked confusing. The Joe the Plumber thing went from "what the fuck is he talking about" to "enough about this guy". He never made the point he was trying to make until it was too far into the boring subject of this plumber.

McCain had a few shining moments. When he told Obama, "Enough with the GGWB connections...." (although Obama responded to that one pretty well).

But where I thought McCain hit the nail on the head and where he failed miserably from that point on (IMO) was when he pointed out, "See folks, that's what Obama does. Every idea he has, everthing he wants to do require more spending......." He should have stayed on that ALL NIGHT. Every time Obama mentioned how to fix something, McCain should have jumped in and said, "there you go folks, more money to solve the problems".

I liked McCain's idea to freeze spending and I liked it when he said, "We don't always have to throw more money at a problem to fix it. You can reform without increasing spending." That is what the people want to hear. But between his nonsense and stupid references to terrorist links and other things that have proven (ask Hillary) to fail in the eyes of voters, he never got his message across.

I gotta give the last one to Obama. I think I might be hearing the fat lady singing.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 10-16-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, I'm pretty damn aware of Bob Scheiffer and his loyalties. One of my good friends is married to his sister. I've met him a few times. And his brother, the one GWB sent to Japan, was the guy that made GWB so much money with the Rangers.

So what.

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