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Talked to some friends yesterday... - Tribal Dragon - 06-10-2010
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/06/09/fioretrust.DTL Silliness!
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:They do not get as much oil from land rigs as they do from deep water.
Have you ever thought about what you have or use in your daily life that is made using oil?
Is there an oil shortage I'm not aware of?Deep water drilling is far from our only option.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-10-2010
The oil companies also make more revenue from deep water jobs.
While we don't have an oil shortage... the US doesn't produce enough oil for our use.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:The oil companies also make more revenue from deep water jobs.
While we don't have an oil shortage... the US doesn't produce enough oil for our use.
who cares how much the oil companies make besides you who we've learned is morally bankrupt?
We've never produced enough for our own use.Yet we still are a super power.There is enough oil in the world to not drill in the gulf of mexico.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-10-2010
Where do you propose we drill if we aren't drilling in the gulf?
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-10-2010
I'm morally bankrupt?
Haven't you admitted you make more money that you are are worth at your job?
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:Where do you propose we drill if we aren't drilling in the gulf?
I'm not hung up on having domestic oil.You are because thats your livelihood.We should be working on alternative fuels so in 30 years when we have something that works those middle eastern countries will be fucked.You are willing to screw the rest of us so you profit.Real american you are.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-10-2010
Here is an idea of not drilling:
Put another way, offshore drilling in the Gulf employs the equivalent of a small U.S. city and keeps us from sending an astounding $35 billion every year to countries like Venezuela and Iran.
The current spill will have enormous environmental impacts, but would halting offshore drilling fix that? The National Academy of Sciences found that tankers carrying oil from other countries account for four times as much spillage as offshore platforms, countries on whom we’d have to depend more for our oil. Stopping drilling thus puts the environment in more jeopardy, not less.
It’s also important to note that while many advocates for a “clean energy future” want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil through a panacea of windmills and solar panels, their solution does not work. Wind and solar provide electricity, not transportation fuel, and oil provides only about 1% of America’s electricity.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:I'm morally bankrupt?
Haven't you admitted you make more money that you are are worth at your job?
Yes you are.You've been trying to convince us of things that are not true.Look at this whole thread for god sakes.
I've never said anything like that about my job.I earn every penny and carry a bunch of dead weight to boot.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:Here is an idea of not drilling:
Put another way, offshore drilling in the Gulf employs the equivalent of a small U.S. city and keeps us from sending an astounding $35 billion every year to countries like Venezuela and Iran.
The current spill will have enormous environmental impacts, but would halting offshore drilling fix that? The National Academy of Sciences found that tankers carrying oil from other countries account for four times as much spillage as offshore platforms, countries on whom we’d have to depend more for our oil. Stopping drilling thus puts the environment in more jeopardy, not less.
It’s also important to note that while many advocates for a “clean energy future” want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil through a panacea of windmills and solar panels, their solution does not work. Wind and solar provide electricity, not transportation fuel, and oil provides only about 1% of America’s electricity.
#1 post where you got this so I can laugh at the latest propaganda from the oil industry you are trying to pass off as objective fact.
#2 What I put in bold is an obvious intellectually dishonest wording of your argument.Of course its only 1%.We havent sunk any real time or money into it until recently.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-10-2010
googled... no idea. sorry
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
Yea links never show up on google.I mean come on.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-10-2010
All you republicans who complain about the bailouts please never say one word about it again.Guess who's maybe picking up part of the tab for the oil clean up?We are!I totally feel responsible for what happened!
Minority Leader John Boehner said he believes taxpayers should help pick up the tab for the clean up.
"I think the people responsible in the oil spill--BP and the federal government--should take full responsibility for what's happening there," Boehner said at his weekly press conference this morning.
Boehner's statement followed comments last Friday by US Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue who said he opposes efforts to stick BP, a member of the Chamber, with the bill. "It is generally not the practice of this country to change the laws after the game," he said. "Everybody is going to contribute to this clean up. We are all going to have to do it. We are going to have to get the money from the government and from the companies and we will figure out a way to do that."
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/boehner-government--ie-taxpayers--should-help-pay-for-oil-spill.php
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 06-10-2010
BIRD33 Wrote:#1 post where you got this so I can laugh at the latest propaganda from the oil industry you are trying to pass off as objective fact.
#2 What I put in bold is an obvious intellectually dishonest wording of your argument.Of course its only 1%.We havent sunk any real time or money into it until recently.
BIRD, re-read what he posted. You have to have read that wrong. He said that "OIL" only provides 1% of America's electricity.
I'm trying to figure out how oil provides any electricity. All electricity is either hydro-electric, coal fired power plants, or nuclear plants. I can't think of a type of power plant that runs on petroleum other than portable generators.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-11-2010
I think the article was referring to wind and solar energy as providing 1% of our energy.
[video=youtube;2AAa0gd7ClM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM[/video]
Talked to some friends yesterday... - BIRD33 - 06-11-2010
I was watching the discovery channel and last night they had a "documentary" insiders look about how BP is handling the oil spill.Total propaganda.You'll be happy to know a bunch of white guys are sitting around a conference room no nicer then my offices trying to solve the biggest environmental mess we've ever had.It was like watching anhi8tors posts acted out in real life.Totally embarrassing.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Tribal Dragon - 06-11-2010
http://www.katu.com/news/photos/95866799.html
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Talked to some friends yesterday... - snarg - 06-11-2010
that was depressing, td
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 06-11-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:Here is an idea of not drilling:
Put another way, offshore drilling in the Gulf employs the equivalent of a small U.S. city and keeps us from sending an astounding $35 billion every year to countries like Venezuela and Iran.
The current spill will have enormous environmental impacts, but would halting offshore drilling fix that? The National Academy of Sciences found that tankers carrying oil from other countries account for four times as much spillage as offshore platforms, countries on whom we’d have to depend more for our oil. Stopping drilling thus puts the environment in more jeopardy, not less.
It’s also important to note that while many advocates for a “clean energy future” want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil through a panacea of windmills and solar panels, their solution does not work. Wind and solar provide electricity, not transportation fuel, and oil provides only about 1% of America’s electricity.
Anhil8tor Wrote:I think the article was referring to wind and solar energy as providing 1% of our energy.
Are you guys fucking retarded? Its very clear what it says and its even more clear the point they are making.
The point is, all of the green advocates pushing wind and solar power can't spin that to mean that is going to save petroleum.
Green energy (wind and solar) is (and can) only be used to provide electricity. OIL IS ONLY USED FOR 1% OF ELECTRICITY. So their point is, you can push for wind and solar all you want, but that is not going to cut back on oil consumption or demand.
Jesus.
Talked to some friends yesterday... - Anhil8tor - 06-11-2010
Ah.
Re-read it and get it now.