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Gulf Oil Leak - snarg - 05-27-2010

i'm giving flump props for acknowledging dubya's shortcomings on katrina
and, right or wrong, the perception for obama is the same in this case

gator, OTOH, gets another F


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2010

Anhil8tor Wrote:I have been trying to show them this same thing and all they will say is its different. Whats different is this president has a D after his name.

Sadly, that is the truth.


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2010

BIRD33 Wrote:I really don't give a shit what you think.You used to be chief defender of Bush on Iraq and then you slinked away like a little bitch on that.You've never had a clue.

[Image: surrender.jpg]

L to R: Flumper, BIRD33


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010

Anhil8tor Wrote:I have been trying to show them this same thing and all they will say is its different. Whats different is this president has a D after his name.

You have been trying to slander someone.Thats all.Its ok he doesnt need or probably want your votes.Enjoy being in the vocal uninformed minority.


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:[Image: surrender.jpg]

L to R: Flumper, BIRD33

These are the same pictures you used to post about Iraq before you realized I was right and totally dropped the issue.I love it.


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2010

BIRD33 Wrote:These are the same pictures you used to post about Iraq before you realized I was right and totally dropped the issue.I love it.

running out of defenses was the first sign you were losing. changing the subject just seals the deal. :lool:


Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-27-2010

snarg Wrote:i'm giving flump props for acknowledging dubya's shortcomings on katrina
and, right or wrong, the perception for obama is the same in this case

gator, OTOH, gets another F

We made the same point... once again you side with who ya like.


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010

You side with who's right.Don't paint your pathetic beliefs on me.


Gulf Oil Leak - snarg - 05-27-2010

Anhil8tor Wrote:We made the same point... once again you side with who ya like.


no, gator
even when flumpenstein is wrong he is not ridiculous like you are: I'm contradicting myself on purpose. Seriously.
do you have any idea how stupit this is, dudley??

stick to "what's for lunch?" or i took my kid to a wrestling match
your glaring stupidity isn't so obvious if you pick the right topic


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2010

snarg Wrote:stick to "what's for lunch?" or i took my kid to a wrestling match
your glaring stupidity isn't so obvious if you pick the right topic

:lool:


Gulf Oil Leak - snarg - 05-27-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote::lool:

damn, that might be the first time da flump has given snarg any sort of approval
maybe time to quit on top??


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2010

snarg Wrote:damn, that might be the first time da flump has given snarg any sort of approval
maybe time to quit on top??

I've laughed to myself a couple of other times.


Gulf Oil Leak - snarg - 05-27-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I've laughed to myself a couple of other times.

ok, i'm stayin' then
thanks


Gulf Oil Leak - Father Juan - 05-27-2010

Dunno if this has been posted but here ya go...fuel for the fire for someone.


http://www.startribune.com/business/95009344.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ


Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-28-2010

snarg Wrote:no, gator
even when flumpenstein is wrong he is not ridiculous like you are: I'm contradicting myself on purpose. Seriously.
do you have any idea how stupit this is, dudley??

stick to "what's for lunch?" or i took my kid to a wrestling match
your glaring stupidity isn't so obvious if you pick the right topic

I'll do it snarg. Won't be back in this thread. I can't believe you've never contradicted yourself to prove a point.

Remember when people speculated Bush had the levees blown up to flood the 9th ward?

BIRD33 Wrote:Wasn't swine flu around when GW was president?

Either way it doesn't compare to turning a blind eye to a whole american city during a catastrophe.

Does this classify as a catastrophe?


Gulf Oil Leak - snarg - 05-28-2010

i runned gator!!!!!
he can call blondie and cry with her :blink:


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-28-2010

Anhil8tor Wrote:I'll do it snarg. Won't be back in this thread. I can't believe you've never contradicted yourself to prove a point.

Remember when people speculated Bush had the levees blown up to flood the 9th ward?



Does this classify as a catastrophe?

It sure does.What city is he turning a blind eye to?Atlantis?Who needs food, water or medical services right now that isnt getting it?


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-28-2010

8 I'm interested in your response to this.Your white rage is fascinating.



Why BP is the Anti-Katrina

This conflates two very different things. Katrina was an example of the type of disaster that the federal government is specifically tasked with handling. And for most of the 90s, it was very good at handling them. But when George Bush became president and Joe Allbaugh became director of FEMA, everything changed. Allbaugh neither knew nor cared about disaster preparedness. For ideological reasons, FEMA was downsized and much of its work outsourced. When Allbaugh left after less than two years on the job, he was replaced by the hapless Michael Brown and the agency was downgraded and broken up yet again. By the time Katrina hit, the upper levels of FEMA were populated largely with political appointees with no disaster preparedness experience and the agency was simply not up to the job of dealing with a huge storm anymore.

The Deepwater Horizon explosion is almost the exact opposite. There is no federal expertise in capping oil blowouts. There is no federal agency tasked specifically with repairing broken well pipes. There is no expectation that the federal government should be able to respond instantly to a disaster like this. There never has been. For better or worse, it's simply not something that's ever been considered the responsibility of the federal government.1

In the case of Katrina, you have the kind of disaster that, contra Levin, can be addressed by the federal government. In the case of the BP spill, we're faced with a technological challenge that can't be. They could hardly be more different.



http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/05/why-bp-anti-katrina


Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-28-2010

BIRD33 Wrote:It sure does.What city is he turning a blind eye to?Atlantis?Who needs food, water or medical services right now that isnt getting it?

Holy shit that had to be embarassing if you caught Obama on the news yesterday trying to defend "all he has been doing". Jesus. Seriously, you have to know what a hypocrite he must feel like. It looks like he has his whole spin team devoted to trying to turn his public image around on this disaster now. Its a shame the problem is still getting bigger by the day, but at least he's working on how the public perceives him, so that should help.

Maybe he read my post yesterday.


Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-28-2010

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Holy shit that had to be embarassing if you caught Obama on the news yesterday trying to defend "all he has been doing". Jesus. Seriously, you have to know what a hypocrite he must feel like. It looks like he has his whole spin team devoted to trying to turn his public image around on this disaster now. Its a shame the problem is still getting bigger by the day, but at least he's working on how the public perceives him, so that should help.

Maybe he read my post yesterday.


Umm no?I'm sure the rest of your post was accurate though.