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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Tribal Dragon - 09-25-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-25-2008

Someone explain me how Mccain suspending his campaign will help the market.


Seriously,I don't get it.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-25-2008

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/pakistans-president-tells-palin-she-is-gorgeous/




Pakistan president Asif Ali Zardari told Palin she's gorgeous.


This is not a joke.Its sooooooo over.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Tribal Dragon - 09-25-2008

Way to cut and run Johnie!

[vbtube]XjkCrfylq-E[/vbtube]

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-26-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Someone explain me how Mccain suspending his campaign will help the market.


Seriously,I don't get it.

Why did Hurricane Ike cause Obama to back out of Saturday Night Live suddenly?

Don't you see the seriousness of these guys spending their time in Washington getting this bill finalized rather than sitting around some conference room having mock debates to get ready for Friday night? A debate is just a rehearsed stage show. This bill is serious business.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-26-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:It's official. Joe Biden is too stupid to be anything.

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1. Roosevelt wasn't president during the stock market crash. Hoover was.

2. TV wasn't invented yet.

Way to avoid this one BIRD33.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Banana - 09-26-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Why did Hurricane Ike cause Obama to back out of Saturday Night Live suddenly?

Don't you see the seriousness of these guys spending their time in Washington getting this bill finalized rather than sitting around some conference room having mock debates to get ready for Friday night? A debate is just a rehearsed stage show. This bill is serious business.

Did you just compare a Saturday Night Live engagement to a presidency campaign?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Way to avoid this one BIRD33.

I never saw it.Do any of those mistakes mean he's less qualified then Palin?

Speaking of dodging questions can you answer if you will vote for someone for president that believes that man roamed the earth with dinosaurs?

Also since you're Mr never dodges a question can you answer how mccain suspending his campaign will help quell fear here and abroad for investors in our market?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Banana Wrote:Did you just compare a Saturday Night Live engagement to a presidency campaign?

You are witnessing a man grasp at straws via a web forum.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-26-2008

Banana Wrote:Did you just compare a Saturday Night Live engagement to a presidency campaign?

Yeah, I asked why Hurricane Ike would cause Obama to cancel being on a comedy show and yet no one can understand why McCain would cancel a debate to solve a crisis for our nation.

I think you understood that right.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-26-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I never saw it.Do any of those mistakes mean he's less qualified then Palin?

Speaking of dodging questions can you answer if you will vote for someone for president that believes that man roamed the earth with dinosaurs?

Also since you're Mr never dodges a question can you answer how mccain suspending his campaign will help quell fear here and abroad for investors in our market?

Question #1: I have no idea what you mean about man living with dinosaurs. But I can tell you one thing, you won't ever find a candidate that you will agree with 100% of what they believe in. I would put a candidates opinion on man living with dinosaurs on about the same level as I would on whether they tie their shoe laces with a double knot (which is gay, btw).

Question #2: I think that McCain feeling the need to be in Washington to help pull a concensus together for a bailout bill that was desperately falling apart because of all the nitpicking and partisanship that was going on was a wise move. And he even asked the President to include Obama in the emergency team they were pulling together to get that concensus worked out. I think I would put the emergency of this issue both on the well-being of this country and our perception world-wide miles and miles ahead of a debate.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Question #1: I have no idea what you mean about man living with dinosaurs. But I can tell you one thing, you won't ever find a candidate that you will agree with 100% of what they believe in. I would put a candidates opinion on man living with dinosaurs on about the same level as I would on whether they tie their shoe laces with a double knot (which is gay, btw).

Question #2: I think that McCain feeling the need to be in Washington to help pull a concensus together for a bailout bill that was desperately falling apart because of all the nitpicking and partisanship that was going on was a wise move. And he even asked the President to include Obama in the emergency team they were pulling together to get that concensus worked out. I think I would put the emergency of this issue both on the well-being of this country and our perception world-wide miles and miles ahead of a debate.

It's public knowledge she believes that the earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs where our pets.You are ok with that representing us on a world stage?Its a little different then differing on a tax increase or immigration laws don't you think?


wow the guy down big in the polls was gracious enough to include the probable future president in talks about the economy?Thats pretty generous since Mccain could have just written the law and passed it by himself since in 40 days his political career is riding off into the sunset.All Mccain did was try to look presidential but it backfired since we all want to hear their plan for fixing this straight from the horses mouth during the debates.He looked like a pussy.If something huge like this happens I want a strong president who understands the economy and doesnt rely on his advisors that are former bank lobbiest and the people who championed deregulation in the first place.I also want a guy who doesnt act to rattled when disaster strikes.The only credit I'll ever give GW is how he didnt stop his apperances at baseball games right after 9\11 to show you can't stop us.Mccain tucked and ran back to washington and that could not possibly help the market and theres no way you believe it did.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-26-2008

Bidens best quotes:

On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

On Obama:
Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007: “‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”

Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That release mocked Obama for asking about the “stunning level of mercury in fish” and asked about a proposal for the U.S. adopt a ban on mercury sales abroad at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”

Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton: “The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”

Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”

September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.

December 26, 2006: “Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”

On Iraq:
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Analyzing the surge on Meet the Press, September 9, 2007: “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the — America’s — this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and — long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation... The reality is that, although there has been some mild progress on the security front, there is, in fact, no, no real security in Baghdad and/or in Anbar province, where I was, dealing with the most serious problem, sectarian violence. Sectarian violence is as strong and as solid and as serious a problem as it was before the surge started.”

Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

On Meet the Press, January 7, 2007, assessing the proposal of a surge of troops to Iraq: “If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, ‘Mr. President, stop.’”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-26-2008

Bidens best quotes:

On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

On Obama:
Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007: “‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”

Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That release mocked Obama for asking about the “stunning level of mercury in fish” and asked about a proposal for the U.S. adopt a ban on mercury sales abroad at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”

Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton: “The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”

Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”

September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.

December 26, 2006: “Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”

On Iraq:
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Analyzing the surge on Meet the Press, September 9, 2007: “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the — America’s — this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and — long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation... The reality is that, although there has been some mild progress on the security front, there is, in fact, no, no real security in Baghdad and/or in Anbar province, where I was, dealing with the most serious problem, sectarian violence. Sectarian violence is as strong and as solid and as serious a problem as it was before the surge started.”

Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

On Meet the Press, January 7, 2007, assessing the proposal of a surge of troops to Iraq: “If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, ‘Mr. President, stop.’”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:Bidens best quotes:

On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

On Obama:
Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007: “‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”

Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That release mocked Obama for asking about the “stunning level of mercury in fish” and asked about a proposal for the U.S. adopt a ban on mercury sales abroad at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”

Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton: “The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”

Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”

September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.

December 26, 2006: “Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”

On Iraq:
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Analyzing the surge on Meet the Press, September 9, 2007: “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the — America’s — this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and — long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation... The reality is that, although there has been some mild progress on the security front, there is, in fact, no, no real security in Baghdad and/or in Anbar province, where I was, dealing with the most serious problem, sectarian violence. Sectarian violence is as strong and as solid and as serious a problem as it was before the surge started.”

Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

On Meet the Press, January 7, 2007, assessing the proposal of a surge of troops to Iraq: “If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, ‘Mr. President, stop.’”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)

8 you don't realize it but you are just reinforcing why Biden is the better VP pick.All these mistakes you cite were made on a world stage with serious issues being talked about.I can show you a bunch of clips where Mccain called Iran Alqueda by accident but that shit happens occasionally, doesnt mean both arent capable.Palin has never uttered one word on what we should do about Iraq until 40 days ago.Yea lets let a few verbal mistakes fool us into thinking some one who is the least qualified VP candidate EVER should get elected.

Watch the couric interview, GOP strategists not working for the Mccain campaign are saying you have to keep her away from this type of interview.She's a human talking point with no actual thoughts on the issues, she looks like an idiot.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-26-2008

and obama is a teleprompter away from not being able to recite anything...


no matter what you won't change your opinion and flump won't change his.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:and obama is a teleprompter away from not being able to recite anything...


no matter what you won't change your opinion and flump won't change his.

8 I bet $100 you havent watched Obama speak without a teleprompter once in your life.Did you see him yesterday at the meeting with Bush and Mccain speak deliberately and intelligently about the economic crisis?Of course you didnt.

I know I can't change both of your opinions.Your vote is based on personal greed and not whats best for the country and flump is just ignorant.Neither of you can deal with a black president because you'll feel inferior after thinking you're better than other races your whole life.Nobody deserves a black commander in chief more than you two.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-26-2008

I could care less that Obama is black. I also still believe this will be only a 1 term president because you can't blame everything on bush. Its gonna be a rough four years and the ultimate blame will fall on the current president.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:I could care less that Obama is black. I also still believe this will be only a 1 term president because you can't blame everything on bush. Its gonna be a rough four years and the ultimate blame will fall on the current president.

The next president will take the blame for the economy and Iraq?You really believe that?Who if Obama wins do you see winning the presidency from him in 4 years?Palin?Who on the GOP side is even close to being electable?Everything you've said is total bullshit.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-26-2008

8, even Bill Oreilly knows bush bares a lot of responsibility for this market crash.

http://gawker.com/5055097/bill-oreilly-loses-it-over-bailout?autoplay=true

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