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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-05-2008

I'll give you 1...

Obama's first executive decision was picking his vice president.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:Obama's experience is 12 years college professor, 7 years state senator, and 3 years US senator.

So what?Obama's not questioning Palins experience.He doesnt need to.Its Mccain who can't question Obama's experience after picking Palin who could be a president with zero foreign policy knowledge.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:I'll give you 1...

Obama's first executive decision was picking his vice president.

How bout running the most succesful political organization of the last 25 years with over 500 employees that managed to come back from 30 down to beat a political dynasty while raising the most money ever?Please try to demean that.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, you have got to be kidding.

He's been a senator his whole career.He's made no executive decisions just like Obama.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He's been a senator his whole career.He's made no executive decisions just like Obama.

Man, are you just pretending to be this stupid? He's only been a senator for 20 years. Do you think he started his career then?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:That's hilarious that you think she "shit" on him for being a community organizer. She was responding to the fact that he had "shit" on her for being a mayor. All she said was that there wasn't much difference in being a mayor and being a community organizer except when you are mayor you actually have to make decisions.

And by decisions, i think she meant taxpayer decisions. Not how far can we stretch the oatmeal this morning.

Are you telling me that wasnt a sarcastic point by her meant to demean Obama?Didnt you see her say it in a sarcastic fashion meant to generate laughter and applause?Cut the bullshit.I'll post the video if you want.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Man, are you just pretending to be this stupid? He's only been a senator for 20 years. Do you think he started his career then?

He retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981, moved to Arizona, and entered politics. Elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1982, he served two terms, and was then elected to the U.S. Senate in 1986, winning re-election easily in 1992, 1998, and 2004.

House reps and senators don't make executive decisions.Am I missing something or do you need to look up the definition of executive decisions?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:Obama's experience is 12 years college professor, 7 years state senator, and 3 years US senator.

Actually, his experience is only being a US senator for 1 year. Watch these two videos.

[vbtube]T2DECDKOFnw[/vbtube]

[vbtube]Nj6syUD1I4U[/vbtube]

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981, moved to Arizona, and entered politics. Elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1982, he served two terms, and was then elected to the U.S. Senate in 1986, winning re-election easily in 1992, 1998, and 2004.

House reps and senators don't make executive decisions.Am I missing something or do you need to look up the definition of executive decisions?

Oh, I get it. You don't consider working your way through the ranks of the military to involve any executive decisions. I guess we should count off for him being "absent" those 6 years he was locked in a cell in Hanoi. Lazy.

See McCain could have come back from the war and retired. He certainly had the injuries, and the excuse to do that.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Oh, I get it. You don't consider working your way through the ranks of the military to involve any executive decisions. I guess we should count off for him being "absent" those 6 years he was locked in a cell in Hanoi. Lazy.

See McCain could have come back from the war and retired. He certainly had the injuries, and the excuse to do that.

No disrespect to his service but those arent executive decisions.Unless you want to redefine what executive decisions means you're off base.Its about making decisons from a political office that your state has to follow.No life long senator on both sides has made them, its just a fact.What does being a POW have to do with this?You are scrambling.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flump go to 7:30 on this video and tell me how Guiliani and Palin arent putting down Obama for skipping the high paying job and becoming a community organizer.Guiliani laughes like its a joke.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184095&title=sarah-palin-vet-this

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-05-2008

so obama said he wouldn't run in 2004? WOW

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 09-05-2008

Obama sure does vote "present" an awful lot. Not a lot of decision making there.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Enjoy the next 8 years, boys.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

You can't make this shit up.I was wondering why they had Mccain speak in front of a green screen last night because it made him look kind of weird.Turns out he was in front of a large picture of what was supposed to be Walter Reid hospital for military personel and the green part was the front lawn part of the picture.In actuality it was a picture of Walter Reid Middle school in Beverly Hills.#1 it looks like one of his mansions.#2 how the fuck do you screw that up?




http://wonkette.com/402576/green-screen-behind-mccain-actually-lawn-of-middle-school-in-uh-north-hollywood

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:You can't make this shit up.I was wondering why they had Mccain speak in front of a green screen last night because it made him look kind of weird.Turns out he was in front of a large picture of what was supposed to be Walter Reid hospital for military personel and the green part was the front lawn part of the picture.In actuality it was a picture of Walter Reid Middle school in Beverly Hills.#1 it looks like one of his mansions.#2 how the fuck do you screw that up?

:lool: Okay. Now that is pretty fucking funny. I would love to be inside the loop to see who gets the blame for that.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Flump go to 7:30 on this video and tell me how Guiliani and Palin arent putting down Obama for skipping the high paying job and becoming a community organizer.Guiliani laughes like its a joke.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184095&title=sarah-palin-vet-this

Well, said i needed to install some kind of flash player to see it. But I saw both speeches and remember their lines well. Guilliani's speech was full of that same kind of stuff, and yes I definitely believe that he was poking fun at how that would never be considered experience enough to put on a resume for a person running for president. It would be like someone applying for an engineering job at my company and telling me that they used to build their own kool-aide stands when they were kids.

I can sort of see both sides. I don't think anyone was trying to demean the fact that community organizers are doing worthwhile jobs. I think the point was that anyone with some free time on their hands can do those jobs. While noble and necessary, they aren't exactly qualifying you to do much more than being citizen of the week.

Now Guiliani's remark was meant to be a direct jab at the fact that a Presidential candidate would need much more on their resume than community organizer. But Palin's remarks were in response to the liberals that had spent the past few days laughing at the fact that she had once been a mayor of a "podunk town" (I think that's what you called it).

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:No disrespect to his service but those arent executive decisions.Unless you want to redefine what executive decisions means you're off base.Its about making decisons from a political office that your state has to follow.No life long senator on both sides has made them, its just a fact.What does being a POW have to do with this?You are scrambling.

BIRD, executive decisions are not limited to political office. I make executive decisions every day. I don't know what you do in your company, you might have to make some, too. An executive decision is when you have to make decisions that will affect people's lives that depend on your good judgment. Military men, have to do that. The point they are making is that being a Senator, especially a one year senator, doesn't put you in very many situations to make an executive decision. Neither does being a community organizer and neither does being a college professor.

Granted Palin's executive decision making didn't affect all that many people, because she was mayor of a small town and governor of a sparsely populated state. But her decisions were well received. She did lower taxes, she put more money into the pockets of the people she governed, she took on the special interest groups and shook up the corruption in Alaska. Whatever things she was doing improved their economy and the people liked it.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote::lool: Okay. Now that is pretty fucking funny. I would love to be inside the loop to see who gets the blame for that.

Some one will not be back coordinating the videos for the convention in 2012.

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