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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Newsflash: No one listens to snarg.

We now return to Flump handing BIRD33 his ass. Thanks.

gee, flump, who do you think is listening to you??

you've been on the wrong side forever
you still can't admit gwb was and is a disaster
proving you are an idiot
you make a fool of yourself on a daily basis in this theard
defending schmucks like bush and giuliani is a losing proposition
their place in history will be in the dumpster behind the building

you and tweety are like two peas in a pod, but at least he is on the right side in this debate
your side is like a shit covered popsicle

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

I'm the non shit covered popsicle!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'm the non shit covered popsicle!

well, yeah, i guess you are the eskimo pie, the chocolate covered popsicle

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

snarg Wrote:gee, flump, who do you think is listening to you??

you've been on the wrong side forever
you still can't admit gwb was and is a disaster
proving you are an idiot
you make a fool of yourself on a daily basis in this theard
defending schmucks like bush and giuliani is a losing proposition
their place in history will be in the dumpster behind the building

you and tweety are like two peas in a pod, but at least he is on the right side in this debate
your side is like a shit covered popsicle

webelos snargsteroski

you're like the stupid of what could be
you make yourself to be the thing you can't be
if I could save time in a bottle the first thing that I'd like to do is to save every day
but something touched me deep inside the day the music died
trying to connect with a senator with 1 year of experience is the dumb
sarah palin is smoking fucking hot
the only guy i know that is dumber than you just killed himself with his shoe laces
drying in the cold sun watching as the frilly panties run

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 09-05-2008

Quote:(CNN) – Barack Obama's campaign says it has raised more than $8 million from over 130,000 donors following Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin's speech Wednesday night.

The campaign also says it is on track to raise $10 million before John McCain takes the podium at the Republican National Convention tonight.

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Quote:YORK, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Barack Obama said Thursday that attacks on him at this week’s Republican National Convention were no big deal: “I’ve been called worse on the basketball court,” he told reporters at an afternoon press conference.

“What did you guys expect?” he asked, smiling, “This is what they do. They don't have an agenda to run on. They haven't offered a single concrete idea so far in two nights about how they would make the lives of middle class Americans better. They've spent the entire two nights attacking me or extolling John McCain's biography, which is fine. They can use their convention time any way they want.”

Watch: "I've been called worse," says Obama

Wednesday night on stage in St. Paul, both Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani belittled Obama’s work as a community organizer in Chicago in the 80s. Obama called the reaction “curious,” as if he were trying to jump from a post-college job to the presidency.

“The question I have for them is that why would that kind of work be ridiculous? Who are they fighting for?” he said. “I think maybe that's the problem - that's part of why they're out of touch and they don't get it because they haven’t spent much time working on behalf of those folks.”

Obama dismissed accusations from Republicans that comments and reports from Democrats and the media about Palin are sexist, saying that digging into her record can only be expected.


“I assume that she wants to be treated the same way that guys want to be treated, which means that their records are under scrutiny. I've been through this for 19 months. She's been through it, what, four days so far?”

But Obama isn’t treating Palin the same way he is McCain — he’s not going after her with nearly the same ferocity. Since the Alaska governor was tapped to be McCain’s running mate, Obama has only mentioned her twice in speeches — and only to criticize her for supporting McCain’s position on equal pay for women.

“I’m running against John McCain and as far as I can tell, I don’t get a sense that Governor Palin has ideas that are different from John McCain’s,” said Obama.

So if the Republicans blows are glancing off of him, what’s he used to being called on the basketball court? “You’d have to bleep it out.”

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

Yeah, I read today that Obama came out and said that he has heard nothing at the RNC about what they would do for the economy or middle class america. Which i found really odd, because they spent a ton of the time last night talking about just exactly that topic.

Huckabee even said in his speech that he doesn't know why Liberals think that all voting republicans were born with wealth. He said that he grew up poor, his father worked hard, blah blah blah. Then he said that he was a Republican because he wanted a chance to make a better life for himself, not sit and wait for the government to give him one.

Which to me pretty much sums up what the Democratic message has always been. Promises and promises and promises from the government of all of these things they are going to give you. How do they pay for them? They just put more tax on the employers.

I can't remember who said this last night. (paraphrasing) "Somehow the Democrats think that this nation is great because of our great government. They don't realize that what makes this nation great is all of the hard working people, the entrepenours, the employers, and our great companies that employ anyone willing to work"

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I can't remember who said this last night. (paraphrasing) "Somehow the Democrats think that this nation is great because of our great government. They don't realize that what makes this nation great is all of the hard working people, the entrepenours, the employers, and our great companies that employ anyone willing to work"

That is the exact fucking opposite of what Obama has been preaching since the beginning of his campaign. He's done nothing but credit the people for him being in the position he is in now and for the massive amount of money his campaign has raised. The entire RNC has been nothing but dillisional blue hairs reminiscing and sucking off McCain for being a POW. Watch the shots of the crowd...you can pick out a Republican walking down the street. It's the same old bullshit.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Yeah, I read today that Obama came out and said that he has heard nothing at the RNC about what they would do for the economy or middle class america. Which i found really odd, because they spent a ton of the time last night talking about just exactly that topic. Really...like what? I'm not sure I remember.

Huckabee even said in his speech that he doesn't know why Liberals think that all voting republicans were born with wealth. He said that he grew up poor, his father worked hard, blah blah blah. Then he said that he was a Republican because he wanted a chance to make a better life for himself, not sit and wait for the government to give him one. Sounds like a Republican's personal opinion on what a Democrat is.

Which to me pretty much sums up what the Democratic message has always been. Promises and promises and promises from the government of all of these things they are going to give you. How do they pay for them? They just put more tax on the employers. So your saying its going to cost employers money to get us out of Iraq? Don't buy that. It's going to cost employers to find better sources of energy? Don't buy that. It's going to cost employers money to make it more affordable for middle class families to have health insurance...I buy that, and it should.

I can't remember who said this last night. (paraphrasing) "Somehow the Democrats think that this nation is great because of our great government. They don't realize that what makes this nation great is all of the hard working people, the entrepenours, the employers, and our great companies that employ anyone willing to work"

Have you heard Obama's plan for making it more affordable for kids to go to college? Have them do community service and give them credit towards college classes. I like that idea. I've not heard a one thing from the McCain camp on first and secondary education. I've heard plenty of ball busting, not much substance.

It's cute how gun-hoe you are now flumper since the 42 year old 4 you think is a 10 has been named VP. She's nothing but the female version of McCain, except she has zero experience on anything economy related, foreign policy related, or DC related. It blows my mind they can say she's got more experience than Obama.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 09-05-2008

its a shame that preconceptions decide how well you judge a speech or party

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

quint Wrote:its a shame that preconceptions decide how well you judge a speech or party

You judge a party on its record, the preconceptions are based on that.

I'd say the Dems speeches have been more upbeat and less cheapshots then the GOP's.Palins was 10-1 cheapshots of Obama to actual plans to help americans.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 09-05-2008

the vp usually is the attack dog at these things.
you should judg obama to mccain and palin to biden.
biden was full of cheap shots.
i like biden he's like that crazy uncle everyone has.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

You white people are so crazy.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Anyone notice the contradiction between mccains call for service to the country the night after Palin shit all over Obama for being a community organinzer?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Anyone notice the contradiction between mccains call for service to the country the night after Palin shit all over Obama for being a community organinzer?

That's hilarious that you think she "shit" on him for being a community organizer. She was responding to the fact that he had "shit" on her for being a mayor. All she said was that there wasn't much difference in being a mayor and being a community organizer except when you are mayor you actually have to make decisions.

And by decisions, i think she meant taxpayer decisions. Not how far can we stretch the oatmeal this morning.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-05-2008

or selling a jet to save the town money?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

Clay, give me 3 or 4 examples of executive decisions that Obama is known for.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Clay, give me 3 or 4 examples of executive decisions that Obama is known for.

Give me 3 Mccain is known for.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 09-05-2008

Obama's experience is 12 years college professor, 7 years state senator, and 3 years US senator.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-05-2008

With all this cheerleading for Palin I'm wondering if you realize how Mccain ultimatly screwed himself by picking her.Sure she seems to have talent but its not the right formula for this year.The math will never add up for Mccain now.This is from Mccain campiang manager from 2000.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/the_swooning_over_sarah.html

Instead, I think she’ll ultimately be a polarizer. After last night’s smash, Republicans are in deep love. Nothing thrills ‘em like a good “us vs. them” speech. But I’d guess that most Democrats had the opposite reaction. In a year where the Democrat generic numbers are 10+ points better than the Republican, I don’t like the math of a strategy that just polarized the election along party base lines. Among the vital sliver of voters in the middle, I think Palin’s rock solid social conservatism will be a turn off. And while voters may value vision over experience, Palin’s inexperience is a weakness, denying McCain an argument that has been helping him against Obama. It's not a real poll and therefore should be taken with an Alaska sized boulder of salt, but the Detroit Free Press asked a few swing voters to watch Gov. Palin's speech and then opine. You can read their reactions here

So that’s my concern with Sarah Palin. Interesting person, bad strategic choice to win the election. I’ve sure been wrong before and perhaps I’m wrong this time. Some smart pols I respect think she’ll be a real help. We’ll know when we count the votes.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-05-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Give me 3 Mccain is known for.

Dude, you have got to be kidding.

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