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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Seriously how embarassing is the Palin pick?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-02-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:The base of the republican party everyone.

I'm just saying. Watching McCain standing between Miss Alaska and Miss January makes Obama/Biden look like two fags in a gay bath house.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-02-2008

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I'm just saying. Watching McCain standing between Miss Alaska and Miss January makes Obama/Biden look like two fags in a gay bath house.

Are we voting for the bunny of the month or president?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bza63nnqiKA&eurl=http://deadspin.com/5043889/sweet-lincolns-mullet-the-sarah-palin-sportscast-video-is-here

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

She kind of looks like the tranny you picked up on eharmony.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - ntype - 09-02-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:

dude(s) if McCain is elected then finally dies because of his pancreas cancers you'll have that as a president.
Seems legit

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-02-2008

ntype Wrote:dude(s) if McCain is elected then finally dies because of his pancreas cancers you'll have that as a president.
Seems legit

That's all we're trying to say.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - littlelolly - 09-02-2008

Oh dear, sweet, angry little birdman:
You asked me to answer questions, but then told me to leave the politics to the men. Which would you prefer?

Edit: http://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/RepublicansDemocratsAndABarMenu

http://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/AFlyerFromTheRepublicanNationalConvention

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Maybe show a little guts and don't let the bad man on the internet intimidate you and answer the questions.If you actually have answers.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Best name for a blog ever.



Welcome To The PalinDrome
http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - littlelolly - 09-02-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Maybe show a little guts and don't let the bad man on the internet intimidate you and answer the questions.If you actually have answers.

I think it's totally awesome and really adorable that you find yourself intimidating.
It's hard to argue with some who doesn't read and comprehend what I say, only to cop out and call me clueless when that's clearly not the case.
Having said that:

• I never questioned the DNC's ability to raise money. The DNC itself is wondering why, with all this star power behind Obama, they don't have more money in the bank. Their words, not mine.
  

• The Dems should be much, much higher in the polls. They're unified on the floor of the convention because, as I mentioned before, that's what is supposed to happen at a convention. But even people like (former) party Chairperson Don Fowler was quoted by the Associated Press that he was worried about the booing from Clinton supporters that might be recorded on the convention floor by the various media outlets when Obama took the stage. Again it's their words, not mine, that drive the argument that the party is fractured.
  

• Let me continue on that paradigm. The racial separations within the Democratic party (primarily the blacks and latinos, but there's a black and white issue as well) have turned into voting blocs against each other, and that's not good. As I have always, I can cite references if you need me to continue to back up fact--but Bill Clinton did it himself recently in that ABC interview. See, the GOP doesn't have that problem. It's a bunch of old white dudes. And don't get me wrong, they hate each other. But no matter what divides lie within the GOP, they always unify for one reason--to beat the 'evil' Democrats. I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying that's how it is.
  

• I don't know if Sarah Palin was a good pick. Do I think she's better than Pawlenty or Lieberman? No. Do I think she's strong enough to be the Vice President, should the need arise? She certainly wasn't my first choice. Rather than write her off, though, I'd like to hear what she has to say. It's called being fair and open-minded. Do I think she's a better candidate than Biden? Yeah. Several reasons, and I don't know how many you want, but I think to a lot of people, he's the type of guy who will say anything to get elected. He has spent half his life in the Senate. He is the ultimate Washington insider, porkbarreling his way through election after election, earning high seats on important committees because of tenure and nothing else. If Obama was truly for change--and I think he is--he would opt to get rid of the Joe Bidens that have been mucking up Washington. The old white boy's club on both sides of the aisle is what is WRONG with our political system. So let's make one of them VP? No. That's not change. That's cementing more of the same. Governor Sebelius? That's change. Chuck Hagel? Would've been change. Both were strong contenders for Obama's VP spot. I'll take a break while you google those last two names I dropped. The first one--she's the governor of Kansas, I think.

• Joe Biden will forever be the man who has spent most of his career plagarizing others in key situations. Most famous is when he stole word-for-word that speech made by Neil Kinnock. But that wasn't the first time. Again, I don't know how many facts/examples you want, because you don't seem to have the mental capacity to understand them, but Biden also plagiarized a law review article when he was attending Syracuse Law School--where, when he was asked famously how he fared, he said that he'd graduated in the top half of his class. Understand that my degrees are in English and Political Science, but last I checked, 76th out of a class of 85 isn't the top half.
  

Let's wrap this up by answering the rest of the insipid questions at the end of your last post to me: I don't recall asking for your respect, nor do I care if I have it. Please forgive me when I chuckle as you outline why I don't have it. You must have a big office--Feminists for Life numbers in the hundreds at just the Big 10 colleges--and with a 35-year history, I think they're a little bigger than you might realize. And to clarify my position, only because you asked, I do believe that abortion is the destruction of a human life, and I don't believe in it personally--but I'm fiercely pro-choice. You were erroneous (well, several times but in particular) assuming that I am a Republican or a Democrat. And no, I don't listen to Rush. I did work at the radio station in high school where he got his start, but that's about it. I just think the term feminazi works more than it doesn't.

If you think my ramblings in this thread are a waste of your time, then I tend to wholeheartedly agree. If you don't want to hear sound fact and rational truth, I certainly don't want to waste my time articulating it. I'll leave that to one of the eleven other people who peruse this site now. Yup, 11. You know once upon a time, this forum had more than a hundred active posters? Golly gosh gee whiz, I have no idea why they'd go elsewhere...

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Dagger - 09-02-2008

And Lolly hands bird his ass.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 09-02-2008

enough about this and that.

i think this palin lady is pretty hot.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 09-02-2008

Obama's bounce smaller than others David Paul Kuhn
Mon Sep 1, 10:38 PM ET



Barack Obama’s post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears to be slightly smaller than the norm of past conventions, and it's gradually depreciating.

The Gallup daily tracking poll has found that since the conclusion of the convention, Obama has risen 4 percentage points in the polls, to lead McCain 49 percent to 43 percent today. That's a slightly smaller uptick in the polls than the 5- to 6-point bounce earned by a typical party nominee, by Gallup’s measure, since 1964. Obama and McCain were evenly split at 45 percentage points apiece prior to the Democratic convention, according to Gallup.

That outcome comes despite Obama’s speech before more than 80,000 people at Invesco Field in Denver on Thursday night, a political event that was also seen by about 40 million television viewers. It also comes as the Republican convention quietly got under way in St. Paul, and the national media gaze focuses southward to Hurricane Gustav.

Daily tracking polls by Gallup and Rasmussen Reports demonstrate that Obama has taken his greatest lead since July, if not the general election. But while Obama’s support remains significantly stronger than weeks ago, it appears that the post-convention bounce he earned may have already peaked.

On Saturday, Gallup reported Obama was ahead by 8 percentage points. By Monday, that lead had shrunk to 5 points. Rasmussen pegs Obama’s standing as relatively stable in recent days, with a 49 percent to 46 percent lead over McCain when “leaners” are included, a small but statistically insignificant improvement for McCain of 1 percentage point since Saturday.

CBS News reported Monday that Obama is now ahead in its poll, 48 to 40 percent, a 3-point uptick in Obama’s standing compared to its poll prior to the Democratic convention. Obama’s 3-point bounce exceeds that of John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004 who did not rise in the polls following his convention. But Obama’s bounce is less than a third of what Al Gore received in 2000 and Bill Clinton received in 1992. Even Bob Dole, following the 1996 Republican convention, received a 4-point bounce in the polls, 1 point more than Obama.

But any Obama bounce, if it is sustained, could be said to be a victory for Democrats. In the days since Obama gave his address, the news cycles have been captured by the unveiling of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate, the opening of the Republican convention and the threat posed by Hurricane Gustav.

There have been only three previous back-to-back conventions, most recently in 1956. The effect of the GOP convention on the polls will not be known for days.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll and a Zogby Interactive flash poll, both completed over the weekend, have found the presidential race is in a dead heat. According to both polls, Obama attained no statistically significant convention bounce.

Whether Obama is ahead or tied with McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee will now come into the Republican convention with his best opportunity yet to break through his own ceiling and take a lead in the presidential race.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

littlelolly Wrote:I think it's totally awesome and really adorable that you find yourself intimidating.
It's hard to argue with some who doesn't read and comprehend what I say, only to cop out and call me clueless when that's clearly not the case.

Having said that:

• I never questioned the DNC's ability to raise money. The DNC itself is wondering why, with all this star power behind Obama, they don't have more money in the bank. Their words, not mine.
  
• Who is complaining about money?Seriously show me.They have double the cash as Mccain.They've raised more money than any campaign in the history of the world.What the fuck are you talking about?
  

• The Dems should be much, much higher in the polls. They're unified on the floor of the convention because, as I mentioned before, that's what is supposed to happen at a convention. But even people like (former) party Chairperson Don Fowler was quoted by the Associated Press that he was worried about the booing from Clinton supporters that might be recorded on the convention floor by the various media outlets when Obama took the stage. Again it's their words, not mine, that drive the argument that the party is fractured.
  
• Remember my West Virginia point how many reliable democrats are not voting for Obama because he's black?The white coal miners in PA don't feel like Obama has their interests in mind.Race is the only reason he's not up 20.
  
• Let me continue on that paradigm. The racial separations within the Democratic party (primarily the blacks and latinos, but there's a black and white issue as well) have turned into voting blocs against each other, and that's not good. As I have always, I can cite references if you need me to continue to back up fact--but Bill Clinton did it himself recently in that ABC interview. See, the GOP doesn't have that problem. It's a bunch of old white dudes. And don't get me wrong, they hate each other. But no matter what divides lie within the GOP, they always unify for one reason--to beat the 'evil' Democrats. I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying that's how it is.
  
• So what you're saying is different races have different agenda's and therefore might not be as unified as a party consisting of soley one race?Wow, thats ground breaking.Let me know when the division in the democratic community is so bad that latino's and blacks will actually consider voting for mccain, thats all that matters.Until then your point is beyond a non issue.
  
• I don't know if Sarah Palin was a good pick. Do I think she's better than Pawlenty or Lieberman? No. Do I think she's strong enough to be the Vice President, should the need arise? She certainly wasn't my first choice. Rather than write her off, though, I'd like to hear what she has to say. It's called being fair and open-minded. Do I think she's a better candidate than Biden? Yeah. Several reasons, and I don't know how many you want, but I think to a lot of people, he's the type of guy who will say anything to get elected. He has spent half his life in the Senate. He is the ultimate Washington insider, porkbarreling his way through election after election, earning high seats on important committees because of tenure and nothing else. If Obama was truly for change--and I think he is--he would opt to get rid of the Joe Bidens that have been mucking up Washington. The old white boy's club on both sides of the aisle is what is WRONG with our political system. So let's make one of them VP? No. That's not change. That's cementing more of the same. Governor Sebelius? That's change. Chuck Hagel? Would've been change. Both were strong contenders for Obama's VP spot. I'll take a break while you google those last two names I dropped. The first one--she's the governor of Kansas, I think.
  
• Hey my question was about if you think she's qualified to be VP.Try to turn it around into a question of Obama not staying on his message if you like but we both know you're running from this question.She's not qualified period.It's only 60 some days till election day, hun.Is she going to say something ground breaking that will make me forget that she admits knowing nothing about the war in Iraq?This is war time correct?Can we afford to go on your hunch that she's capable?
  

• Joe Biden will forever be the man who has spent most of his career plagarizing others in key situations. Most famous is when he stole word-for-word that speech made by Neil Kinnock. But that wasn't the first time. Again, I don't know how many facts/examples you want, because you don't seem to have the mental capacity to understand them, but Biden also plagiarized a law review article when he was attending Syracuse Law School--where, when he was asked famously how he fared, he said that he'd graduated in the top half of his class. Understand that my degrees are in English and Political Science, but last I checked, 76th out of a class of 85 isn't the top half.
  
• Your vice presidential candidate minored in political science and was a sportscaster after college.What Law School did Palin go to?Comparing Palin to Biden as far as who served the public more is a joke and shows that this is all a game to you,who has the best talking point or comeback.This isnt about making america better, to you this is about your side winning.You disgust me.
  

Let's wrap this up by answering the rest of the insipid questions at the end of your last post to me: I don't recall asking for your respect, nor do I care if I have it. Please forgive me when I chuckle as you outline why I don't have it. You must have a big office--Feminists for Life numbers in the hundreds at just the Big 10 colleges--and with a 35-year history, I think they're a little bigger than you might realize. And to clarify my position, only because you asked, I do believe that abortion is the destruction of a human life, and I don't believe in it personally--but I'm fiercely pro-choice. You were erroneous (well, several times but in particular) assuming that I am a Republican or a Democrat. And no, I don't listen to Rush. I did work at the radio station in high school where he got his start, but that's about it. I just think the term feminazi works more than it doesn't. Can I get a number of how many Femnazi pro lifers there are out there or was that whole point of yours just bullshit?Whatever it is it's not nearly enough to swing an election.Yea that was embarrassing for you.

If you think my ramblings in this thread are a waste of your time, then I tend to wholeheartedly agree. If you don't want to hear sound fact and rational truth, I certainly don't want to waste my time articulating it. I'll leave that to one of the eleven other people who peruse this site now. Yup, 11. You know once upon a time, this forum had more than a hundred active posters? Golly gosh gee whiz, I have no idea why they'd go elsewhere...

I'm going to quit because I got made to look foolish!See ya honey.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Dagger Wrote:And Lolly hands bird his ass.

Arent you the guy who follows paddy around?When are you going to say something interesting on your own?I'm pretty sure you know you couldnt fuck with me in any debate.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

quint Wrote:Obama's bounce smaller than others David Paul Kuhn
Mon Sep 1, 10:38 PM ET



Barack Obama’s post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears to be slightly smaller than the norm of past conventions, and it's gradually depreciating.

The Gallup daily tracking poll has found that since the conclusion of the convention, Obama has risen 4 percentage points in the polls, to lead McCain 49 percent to 43 percent today. That's a slightly smaller uptick in the polls than the 5- to 6-point bounce earned by a typical party nominee, by Gallup’s measure, since 1964. Obama and McCain were evenly split at 45 percentage points apiece prior to the Democratic convention, according to Gallup.

That outcome comes despite Obama’s speech before more than 80,000 people at Invesco Field in Denver on Thursday night, a political event that was also seen by about 40 million television viewers. It also comes as the Republican convention quietly got under way in St. Paul, and the national media gaze focuses southward to Hurricane Gustav.

Daily tracking polls by Gallup and Rasmussen Reports demonstrate that Obama has taken his greatest lead since July, if not the general election. But while Obama’s support remains significantly stronger than weeks ago, it appears that the post-convention bounce he earned may have already peaked.

On Saturday, Gallup reported Obama was ahead by 8 percentage points. By Monday, that lead had shrunk to 5 points. Rasmussen pegs Obama’s standing as relatively stable in recent days, with a 49 percent to 46 percent lead over McCain when “leaners” are included, a small but statistically insignificant improvement for McCain of 1 percentage point since Saturday.

CBS News reported Monday that Obama is now ahead in its poll, 48 to 40 percent, a 3-point uptick in Obama’s standing compared to its poll prior to the Democratic convention. Obama’s 3-point bounce exceeds that of John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004 who did not rise in the polls following his convention. But Obama’s bounce is less than a third of what Al Gore received in 2000 and Bill Clinton received in 1992. Even Bob Dole, following the 1996 Republican convention, received a 4-point bounce in the polls, 1 point more than Obama.

But any Obama bounce, if it is sustained, could be said to be a victory for Democrats. In the days since Obama gave his address, the news cycles have been captured by the unveiling of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate, the opening of the Republican convention and the threat posed by Hurricane Gustav.

There have been only three previous back-to-back conventions, most recently in 1956. The effect of the GOP convention on the polls will not be known for days.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll and a Zogby Interactive flash poll, both completed over the weekend, have found the presidential race is in a dead heat. According to both polls, Obama attained no statistically significant convention bounce.

Whether Obama is ahead or tied with McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee will now come into the Republican convention with his best opportunity yet to break through his own ceiling and take a lead in the presidential race.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Barack Obama attracting 48% of the vote while John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 51%, McCain 45%. This is the highest level of support enjoyed by Obama at any point in Election 2008 (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-02-2008

Its funny to watch BIRD33 get power slammed by someone named Little Lolly.

And, for the record, the only position that I am interested in hearing about from Vice-President Sarah Palin is her favorite position. Thanks.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 09-02-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Its funny to watch BIRD33 get power slammed by someone named Little Lolly.

And, for the record, the only position that I am interested in hearing about from Vice-President Sarah Palin is her favorite position. Thanks.

tag team by dagger and Flump, two intellectual heavyweights.Flump remember when you used to defend republicans?Those were the days.

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