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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 08-29-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I bet Mccain takes a chick as vp.Its the smart move.
What chick? Does anyone really care who he takes?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 08-29-2008
Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.
Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 08-29-2008
mccain would take powell if he wanted it.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
Anhil8tor Wrote:mccain would take powell if he wanted it.Powell is supporting Obama.Get with the times.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 08-29-2008
Sarah Palin?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - quint - 08-29-2008
interesting link shows voting trends by state in past elections.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm
scary how some states always vote the same way on both sides.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 08-29-2008
quint Wrote:interesting link shows voting trends by state in past elections.rack 1972
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm
scary how some states always vote the same way on both sides.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
quint Wrote:interesting link shows voting trends by state in past elections.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm
scary how some states always vote the same way on both sides.
Thats pretty neat.
I gave Obama
Colorado
PA
NJ
WASH
OR
CA
IL
IOWA
MINN
WISC
MICH
VT
RI
NY
MASS
DE
ARK
CONN
DC
HI
He wins by two electoral votes.Thats assuming Mccain wins Virginia, Ohio, Florida and Kansas which are by no means in the bag for him.Michigan could go Mccain but if one of the above goes Obama it cancels it out.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-29-2008
cLaY Wrote:What chick? Does anyone really care who he takes?
I think its pretty well a done deal now. McCain is picking Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. I guess he needs to lock up the eskimo vote.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
My call on the woman.I'm a politial staregist of the highest order.It's obvious he feels the only way to win is by getting the usual GOP base and siphoning off as many Hillary voters as possible.Probably not going to work.If Obama can get Hillary and Oprah(scary this is a factor) out campaigning for him non stop until election day he should be able to get the broads in line since most don't want abortion outlawed.Isnt anyone worried that we'd be electing a 70 year old guy and if he dies the country is left to a young women who was govenor of a small state with no foreign policy experience?
I read she's got some problem with her ex brother in law and her trying to get him fired as a state trooper.
I don't know who would have been the best pick for him since all he had was losers like Romney and Liberman but I don't see this helping him.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
"Sarah and Todd Palin have five children: boys Track, 19, and Trig, 4 months, and daughters Bristol, 17, Willow, 13, and Piper, 7."
Track and Trig?Good luck America.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 08-29-2008
insanity for them to run that woman
great for obama
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
Besides bitter hillary voters I don't see the logic in what they are doing.Alaska isnt a battleground state and with only 67 days till election day thats not a lot of time for america to get to know her and feel comfortable with her being one step away from the button.Is running a state where one of the biggest issues is moose attacks enough to qualify her to run the free world?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 08-29-2008
nobody who thinks about it could vote for mccain with her next in line
i find it hard to believe
it looks like throwing the towel in to me
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-29-2008
I think the VP pick is a mistake. I think McCain had his sights set on Kay Bailey Hutchinson and she finally gave him a NO. She wants to run for governor of Texas.
I just don't see this pick helping mccain. it looks like a token pick to me. like someone got on the phone and said "just get me a woman. any woman."
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I think the VP pick is a mistake. I think McCain had his sights set on Kay Bailey Hutchinson and she finally gave him a NO. She wants to run for governor of Texas.
I just don't see this pick helping mccain. it looks like a token pick to me. like someone got on the phone and said "just get me a woman. any woman."
I think you're right.Her state has 600,000 people in it and she's going to run a country of a couple hundred million people?How can they hit Obama with the no experience tag anymore?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-29-2008
Obama's speech last night was okay. I wonder how hard it was to hear a speech in a coliseum like that? It looked like everyone could hear okay.
Once again, not a slam on Obama, but do any of you guys ever sit there when a politician runs off a list of the things that they are going to do and try to add up what it would all cost if they actually did those things? I don't think if you taxed everyone 100% income tax that you could pay for it all.
I thought the highlight of the night (most might have missed it, it was before the broadcast) was when they brought out the "common people". Anyway so meek little frail woman was up there speaking, obviously scared out of her mind to be on a podium with 70,000 people watching, but she was explaining how the economy had hurt her personally.
She wrapped up by saying, "You know Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is when you do the same thing over and over and over again. Each time expecting a different outcome. It would be insane for us to vote John McCain back into the white house."
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-29-2008
Crazy. Obama is worth around $1.3 million. Most of it from his book deal. And they live in a $1.9 million house.
Is that about right that people would be worth only 60% as much as the value of their house?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 08-29-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Obama's speech last night was okay. I wonder how hard it was to hear a speech in a coliseum like that? It looked like everyone could hear okay.
Once again, not a slam on Obama, but do any of you guys ever sit there when a politician runs off a list of the things that they are going to do and try to add up what it would all cost if they actually did those things? I don't think if you taxed everyone 100% income tax that you could pay for it all.
I thought the highlight of the night (most might have missed it, it was before the broadcast) was when they brought out the "common people". Anyway so meek little frail woman was up there speaking, obviously scared out of her mind to be on a podium with 70,000 people watching, but she was explaining how the economy had hurt her personally.
She wrapped up by saying, "You know Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is when you do the same thing over and over and over again. Each time expecting a different outcome. It would be insane for us to vote John McCain back into the white house."
I thought the speech was good but the expectations were built so high he couldnt please everybody.I think people were waiting for him to turn water into wine.
Imagine what we could pay for if we werent spending a billion a month in Iraq.I know it sounds like I'm harping on it but its true.
I liked Gores speech.
The more I think about Mccains VP pick the more excited I get.I was worried about Obama losing and now I'm pretty sure that he's going to win.She has zero foreign policy experience and really not much economic experience.Her debates with Biden are going to be a massacre as long as Biden doesnt come off as a know it all pushing a woman around.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-29-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I thought the speech was good but the expectations were built so high he couldnt please everybody.I think people were waiting for him to turn water into wine.
Imagine what we could pay for if we werent spending a billion a month in Iraq.I know it sounds like I'm harping on it but its true.
I liked Gores speech.
The more I think about Mccains VP pick the more excited I get.I was worried about Obama losing and now I'm pretty sure that he's going to win.She has zero foreign policy experience and really not much economic experience.Her debates with Biden are going to be a massacre as long as Biden doesnt come off as a know it all pushing a woman around.
I know hardly anything about her, but her and Biden in a debate is going to be like watching Michel Phelps swim against Terry Schivazo (sp?).