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Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
They are discussing a top kill today....
Top kill has worked successfully on above-ground oil wells in the Middle East but has never been tested 5,000 feet underwater.
Hayward has given the "top kill" maneuver a 60 percent to 70 percent chance of success.
From angry residents of the Gulf Coast to frustrated lawmakers in Washington, many pinned hopes that with the top kill, BP finally would be able to stop the oil leak. Otherwise, they said, it was time for the government to take charge.
"If the thing is not fixed today, the president doesn't have a choice, and he better go in and completely take over, perhaps with the military in charge," said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida.
Grand Isle, Louisiana, Mayor David Camardelle said patience was wearing thin.
"I want the president to step in and make things happen," he said. "We've been frustrated for the last 37 days, and we're trying to get things moving the right way and our people can't wait."
President Obama is planning to visit the Gulf Coast on Friday to review oil response efforts.
---you really think its a good idea for the president to step in? I mean why not wait till August or September? Maybe a hurricane can come in and he can blame BP and mother nature.
Gulf Oil Leak - justintime - 05-26-2010
Looks like Obama is about to get caught up in this mess and the future of his presidency may be at risk if either BP or he doesn't succeed in stopping the leak soon. The public isn't going to give Obama a choice in this. It's going to fall into his lap whether it should or not.
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-26-2010
Delusional.If obama doesn't stop the leak?what a jerk off.
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
I find it odd that anyone would blame someone for something that isn't there fault. Whats next... blaming Obama for a natural disaster?
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/05/obama_gets_low_marks_on_econom.html
Here is your question bird:
If you were the president, what would you do turn around these perceptions?
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
Its official...
Its Bushs fault!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99727-dodd-blames-bush-for-oil-spill
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-26-2010
Did Obama need to be shown news footage by his staff two days later before he realized there was an oil spill?
8 is an oil rig blowing up an act of god?If not it isn't a natural disaster.
Gulf Oil Leak - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-26-2010
BIRD33 Wrote:Did Obama need to be shown news footage by his staff two days later before he realized there was an oil spill?
8 is an oil rig blowing up an act of god?If not it isn't a natural disaster.
Dude, its going on 3 weeks now. Its past time for some fucking action.
Gulf Oil Leak - Blondie - 05-26-2010
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, its going on 3 weeks now. Its past time for some fucking action.
A month.
Thinking about it makes me ill.
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
BIRD33 Wrote:8 is an oil rig blowing up an act of god?If not it isn't a natural disaster.
reread it an connect my points.
Nukes, a simple proven method to stop oil leaks
A leading Russian daily has come up with another option-nuke the spill. Though it sounds more like fiction and somewhat outlandish, the fact is that Soviet Russia had used controlled nuclear explosions to contain oil spills, on at least five different occasions.
The science is to drill a hole near the leak, set off the explosion and then seal off the leak-used in the soviet for an oil spill in the desert. If it is rocky surface the explosion would shift the rock which then squeezes the funnel of the well. The first underground nuclear explosion was done in Urt-Bulak in 1966 to control burning gas wells. The success ratio is quite high with only one of them failing to prevent a spill in Kharkov region in 1972.
There is an analogy between using nukes to stop the oil leak and using Chemotherapy on a cancer patient. Chemo nearly kills the patient in order to kill all cancerous cells. Yet it is the best known way to stop cancer. The same goes with using nukes underwater. Like chemo it is drastic yet has a 80% success rate, better than anything else.
# Some analysts are against the use of nuclear explosions on fear of the effects on the environment. But the world has already done underwater testing of nuclear devices and if there was a huge environmental disaster as a result of it, we'd have known by now. Indeed, Commandant Cousteau, renowned biologist led numerous dives following French underwater nuclear explosions in the Mururoa atoll and noted very little impact on sea life.
# using nukes to stop the leak is the most ecological alternative. Stopping the leak before too much oil leak is the key, speed is of the essence. Nukes would allow this to be resolved in a matter of days. This would save thousands of miles of shoreline, millions of animals by not allowing this toxic sludge to contaminate the shore.
# One of the main issues with using nukes is public opinion. Even though it's the most ecological alternative, nukes have a huge public stigma hard to overcome, mostly due to ignorance. Nuclear bombs are not intended to be used for peaceful, ecological purposes and educating the public on this possibility is an uphill battle.
# This technology was used by the Russians, the USA's sworn enemy at the peak of the cold war. Never mind the relatively high success rate of 80%, no politician in his right mind would sell a Russian solution to the public.
# Of course, BP does not have nukes. The US military does, of which the Army Corps of Engineers would probably have to design a plan to use them on the leak. The United States has about 5,113 nuclear war heads, as revealed by Pentagon according to the Strategic Arms Reduction purpose. So, why not use them for peaceful purpose for once?
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-26-2010
Katrina times 10 in the works
"We are continuing to do all we can to stop the flow of oil from the well and also attack and capture the spilled oil offshore," said Tony Hayward. "However, it is also vital that we work together with government and potentially impacted communities to protect the shoreline from any impact of the spill. We hope these grants will support the effective deployment of pre-prepared response plans in each state." Following its involvement with the faulty dam design during Katrina, the Corps understandably errs on the side of caution. Which means trying not to get involved at all.
Hurricane Katrina left Louisiana with unhealed wounds because of a lack of decisive response from the local authority. The same behavioural pattern emerges once again where a disastrous situation is not being addressed promptly and left to worsen. Surely Federal subsidies will shower the coastline of Louisiana and trickle down local pockets after all this oil has damaged the shore and killed most of the wildlife, but at what price?
Gulf Oil Leak - squirt - 05-27-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:Its official...Did I not call it? Yes I did.
Its Bushs fault!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99727-dodd-blames-bush-for-oil-spill
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Dude, its going on 3 weeks now. Its past time for some fucking action.
Yes why doesnt that law professor put on his wet suit and do something.
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010
I'm comfortable with this.
BIRD33\8tor, Squirt, Blondie
Gulf Oil Leak - phantom - 05-27-2010
BIRD33 Wrote:Yes why doesnt that law professor put on his wet suit and do something.
He's been on two vacations since it happened. That's about the best thing he could do.
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-27-2010
And another vacation planned for memorial day. Its good to be da pres!
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010
Which president took the most vacations of all time while in office?Its so easy as the crazy people say to make you idiots look like hypocrites.
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-27-2010
I bet. Keep in mind Obama has two years left.
Gulf Oil Leak - BIRD33 - 05-27-2010
Keep in mind he's not even close to the record.
Gulf Oil Leak - Anhil8tor - 05-27-2010
can you tell me whats the record?