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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

Hillary's race has now become one that hinges on these things:

We have to count the votes in Florida where no one was allowed to campaign.

We have to count the votes in Michigan where Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

And Obama has to get killed.

That's a pretty sound strategy I think.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 05-24-2008

Vote for me before the darky gets it '08!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

If he doesn't get killed before the convention, she should consider being the VP, because even if the assassination is delayed until after november, she'd be next in line.

I wonder if she's thought of that yet?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 05-24-2008

She says she didnt mean it that way but she basically said my husband didnt get the nomination until june and it took till june for RFK to get killed.She's gone crazy.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:She says she didnt mean it that way but she basically said my husband didnt get the nomination until june and it took till june for RFK to get killed.She's gone crazy.

Let's see. Ted Kennedy is dying of brain cancer. So Obama chooses to fill in for him and do a commencement address with almost no notice. And Hillary decides to talk about his brother getting murdered. I can't see how this isn't going to work out to be a huge political move for her.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 05-24-2008

After the convention, if either nominee drops dead, how do the parties choose a successor?

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 05-24-2008

cLaY Wrote:that's where you're wrong, tool. i've never never voted before and never been inspired to vote before. it's taken almost 2 presidential elections for me to feel good about lending my vote to someone i don't feel will ruin my country even further.

we're almost a year into this thing and you still don't know what the two nominees have to say? it's pretty clear cut. vote for a guy not aligned with the populus washington, or the guy who could end up being worse than bush with the exact same policies.

dumb fucking baptist.

even better. stick youre head in the sand and act like everything is peachy because you are too scared to have an opinion either way.

i'm not a mccain fan. i'm going to watch it until the end. no reason to decide now... the vote is still so far away.

religion is a product of where you are born.

BIRD33 Wrote:8 knows who he's voting for but he's trying to look open minded.The guy has a black person to make his lunch at work.He's not voting Obama.

actually chef is a staunch democrat that was pro hiliary from the beginning. s'what confuses me.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 05-24-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:even better. stick youre head in the sand and act like everything is peachy because you are too scared to have an opinion either way.

i'm not a mccain fan. i'm going to watch it until the end. no reason to decide now... the vote is still so far away.

religion is a product of where you are born.



actually chef is a staunch democrat that was pro hiliary from the beginning. s'what confuses me.

blkguyslovewhitebithes>

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 05-24-2008

Anhil8tor Wrote:even better. stick youre head in the sand and act like everything is peachy because you are too scared to have an opinion either way.

i'm not a mccain fan. i'm going to watch it until the end. no reason to decide now... the vote is still so far away.

religion is a product of where you are born.



actually chef is a staunch democrat that was pro hiliary from the beginning. s'what confuses me.

Wrong again. Why vote for someone I don't want in office? Makes sense to me.

So you're going to watch until the end, and if Barack doesn't do anymore than he already has to convince the citizens in America who have half a brain he's the man to lead the country, you'll turn around and vote for McCain just because his middle name isn't Hussein and his pastor doesn't think 911 was a conspiracy. I've got you nailed down dude, you're a white man living in Louisiana who happens to be Baptist...pretty hard not to nail down your political leanings.

Religion is using your fucking brain to decide what you believe in, not follow what people tell you to believe. I was raised in a town where 50% of the churches are Baptist. The church I attend is the polar opposite of those Nazis.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

who Wrote:After the convention, if either nominee drops dead, how do the parties choose a successor?

Quote:If a Presidential candidate dies . . .

. . . before the convention?

The convention delegates nominate someone else.

. . . after the convention, but before the November election?

The national party tries to work out a substitute candidate. Depending on state rules and timing, the old candidate may appear on the ballot, the old candidate's electoral slate may be elected under the new candidate's name, a new electoral slate may be substituted, or similar variations.

. . . after the Novemeber election, but before the December Electoral College vote?

The national party will try to pick a substitute candidate for its party electors to vote for.

. . . after the December Electoral College vote, but before the January counting of the vote by Congress?

A good question, depending on the answers to two others.

A) Is the person who received a majority of the Electoral College votes for President the President-Elect at the time the votes are cast, or not until they are counted? If he is the President-Elect, then under the 20th Amendment, the Vice President Elect becomes President. If not, see B.

B) Can a dead man win the election? If one can, than he becomes President-Elect upon the counting, but since he's dead, the Vice President becomes President under the 20th. If a dead man cannot win, then nobody would have won a majority of the Electoral College, and the election would be thrown to the House of Representatives.

. . . after the counting of the vote by Congress?

Under the 20th Amendment, the Vice President Elect becomes President.

I have no idea if that is right or not, though.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

Sec. 145.035. WITHDRAWN, DECEASED, OR INELIGIBLE
CANDIDATE'S NAME OMITTED FROM BALLOT. A candidate's name shall be
omitted from the ballot if the candidate withdraws, dies, or is
declared ineligible on or before the 74th [65th] day before
election day.
SECTION 8. Section 145.037(e), Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(e) The certification must be delivered not later than 5
p.m. of the 70th [60th] day before election day.
SECTION 9. Section 145.038(b), Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(b) The state chair must deliver the certification of the
replacement nominee not later than 5 p.m. of the 67th [57th] day
before election day.
SECTION 10. Section 145.039, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 145.039. DECEASED OR INELIGIBLE CANDIDATE'S NAME TO
APPEAR ON GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT. If a candidate dies or is
declared ineligible after the 74th [65th] day before election day,
the candidate's name shall be placed on the ballot.
SECTION 11. Sections 145.062, 145.064, and 145.065,
Election Code, are amended to read as follows:
Sec. 145.062. DEADLINE FOR WITHDRAWAL. A candidate may not
withdraw from the general election after the 74th [65th] day before
election day.
Sec. 145.064. WITHDRAWN, DECEASED, OR INELIGIBLE
CANDIDATE'S NAME OMITTED FROM BALLOT. (a) Except as provided by
Subsection (b), a candidate's name shall be omitted from the ballot
if the candidate withdraws, dies, or is declared ineligible on or
before the 74th [65th] day before election day.
(b) The name of a deceased candidate may not be omitted if:
(1) the decedent was the incumbent in the office for
which the decedent was a candidate; or
(2) no other candidate's name is to appear on the
ballot in the race in which the decedent was a candidate.
Sec. 145.065. DECEASED OR INELIGIBLE CANDIDATE'S NAME TO
APPEAR ON GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT. If a candidate dies or is
declared ineligible after the 74th [65th] day before election day,
the candidate's name shall be placed on the ballot.
SECTION 12. Section 145.092, Election Code, is amended by
adding Subsection (f) to read as follows:
(f) A candidate in an election for which the filing deadline
for an application for a place on the ballot is not later than 5 p.m.
of the 70th day before election day may not withdraw from the
election after 5 p.m. of the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 13. Section 145.094(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) The name of a candidate shall be omitted from the ballot
if the candidate:
(1) dies before the second day before the date of the
deadline for filing the candidate's application for a place on the
ballot;
(2) withdraws or is declared ineligible before 5 p.m.
of the second day before the beginning of early voting by personal
appearance, in an election subject to Section 145.092(a); [or]
(3) withdraws or is declared ineligible before 5 p.m.
of the 53rd day before election day, in an election subject to
Section 145.092(b); or
(4) withdraws or is declared ineligible before 5 p.m.
of the 67th day before election day, in an election subject to
Section 145.092(f).
SECTION 14. Section 145.096(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a candidate's name
shall be placed on the ballot if the candidate:
(1) dies on or after the second day before the deadline
for filing the candidate's application for a place on the ballot;
(2) is declared ineligible after 5 p.m. of the second
day before the beginning of early voting by personal appearance, in
an election subject to Section 145.092(a); [or]
(3) is declared ineligible after 5 p.m. of the 53rd day
before election day, in an election subject to Section 145.092(b);
or
(4) is declared ineligible after 5 p.m. of the 67th day
before election day, in an election subject to Section 145.092(f).
SECTION 15. Section 145.097, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 145.097. HOME-RULE CITY CANDIDATE. Provisions
governing the withdrawal, death, or ineligibility of candidates for
city offices prescribed by a home-rule city charter supersede this
chapter to the extent of any conflict, except that this subchapter
prevails in regard to an election subject to Section 145.092(f).
SECTION 16. Sections 146.025(a) and (b), Election Code, are
amended to read as follows:
(a) A declaration of write-in candidacy must be filed not
later than 5 p.m. of the 70th [60th] day before general election
day, except as otherwise provided by this code. A declaration may
not be filed earlier than the 30th day before the date of the
regular filing deadline.
(b) If a candidate whose name is to appear on the general
election ballot dies or is declared ineligible after the third day
before the date of the filing deadline prescribed by Subsection
(a), a declaration of write-in candidacy for the office sought by
the deceased or ineligible candidate may be filed not later than 5
p.m. of the 67th [57th] day before election day.
SECTION 17. Section 146.029©, Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
© Not later than the 62nd [55th] day before election day,
the certifying authority shall deliver the certification to the
authority responsible for having the official ballot prepared in
each county in which the office sought by the candidate is to be
voted on.
SECTION 18. Sections 146.0301(a) and (d), Election Code,
are amended to read as follows:
(a) A write-in candidate may not withdraw from the election
after the 67th [46th] day before election day.
(d) A candidate's name shall be omitted from the list of
write-in candidates if the candidate withdraws on or before the
67th [46th] day before election day.
SECTION 19. Section 146.054, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 146.054. FILING DEADLINE. (a) Except as provided by
Subsection (b), a [A] declaration of write-in candidacy must be
filed not later than 5 p.m. of the fifth day after the date an
application for a place on the ballot is required to be filed.
(b) For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 20. Section 161.008(b), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(b) Not later than the 62nd [55th] day before general
election day, the secretary of state shall deliver the
certification to the authority responsible for having the official
general election ballot prepared in each county in which the
candidate's name is to appear on the ballot.
SECTION 21. Section 192.031, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 192.031. PARTY CANDIDATE'S ENTITLEMENT TO PLACE ON
BALLOT. A political party is entitled to have the names of its
nominees for president and vice-president of the United States
placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if:
(1) the nominees possess the qualifications for those
offices prescribed by federal law;
(2) before 5 p.m. of the 70th [60th] day before
presidential election day, the party's state chair signs and
delivers to the secretary of state a written certification of:
(A) the names of the party's nominees for
president and vice-president; and
(B) the names and residence addresses of
presidential elector candidates nominated by the party, in a number
equal to the number of presidential electors that federal law
allocates to this state; and
(3) the party is:
(A) required or authorized by Subchapter A of
Chapter 172 to make its nominations by primary election; or
(B) entitled to have the names of its nominees
placed on the general election ballot under Chapter 181.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-24-2008

SECTION 22. Section 192.033(b), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(b) Not later than the 62nd [55th] day before presidential
election day, the secretary of state shall deliver the
certification to the authority responsible for having the official
ballot prepared in each county.
SECTION 23. Section 192.062(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) The secretary of state shall certify in writing for
placement on the ballot the name of a political party's replacement
nominee for president or vice-president of the United States if:
(1) the original nominee withdraws, dies, or is
declared ineligible on or before the 74th [65th] day before
presidential election day; and
(2) the party's state chair delivers certification of
the replacement nominee's name, signed by the state chair, to the
secretary of state not later than 5 p.m. of the 70th [60th] day
before presidential election day.
SECTION 24. Section 192.063(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) The name of an independent presidential candidate and
the name of the candidate's running mate shall be omitted from the
ballot if the presidential candidate withdraws, dies, or is
declared ineligible on or before the 74th [65th] day before
presidential election day.
SECTION 25. Section 192.064(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) The secretary of state shall certify in writing for
placement on the ballot the name of a replacement vice-presidential
running mate for an independent candidate for president of the
United States if:
(1) the original running mate withdraws, dies, or is
declared ineligible on or before the 74th [65th] day before
presidential election day; and
(2) the independent presidential candidate delivers
certification of the replacement running mate's name, signed by the
presidential candidate, to the secretary of state not later than 5
p.m. of the 70th [60th] day before presidential election day.
SECTION 26. Section 201.051, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 201.051. TIME FOR ORDERING ELECTION. (a) If a vacancy
in office is to be filled by special election, the election shall be
ordered as soon as practicable after the vacancy occurs, subject to
Subsection (b).
(b) For a vacancy to be filled by a special election to be
held on the date of the general election for state and county
officers, the election shall be ordered not later than the 70th day
before election day.
SECTION 27. Section 201.054, Election Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection (f) to read as
follows:
(a) Except as provided by Subsection (f), a [A] candidate's
application for a place on a special election ballot must be filed
not later than:
(1) 5 p.m. of the 67th day before election day, if
election day is on or after the 70th day after the date the election
is ordered;
(2) 5 p.m. of the 31st day before election day, if
election day is on or after the 36th day and before the 70th day
after the date the election is ordered; or
(3) [(2)] 5 p.m. of a day fixed by the authority
ordering the election, which day must be not earlier than the fifth
day after the date the election is ordered and not later than the
20th day before election day, if election day is before the 36th day
after the date the election is ordered.
(f) For a special election to be held on the date of the
general election for state and county officers, the day of the
filing deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 28. Section 202.002, Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
Sec. 202.002. VACANCY FILLED AT GENERAL ELECTION. (a) If a
vacancy occurs on or before the 74th [65th] day before the general
election for state and county officers held in the next-to-last
even-numbered year of a term of office, the remainder of the
unexpired term shall be filled at the next general election for
state and county officers, as provided by this chapter.
(b) If a vacancy occurs after the 74th [65th] day before a
general election day, an election for the unexpired term may not be
held at that general election. The appointment to fill the vacancy
continues until the next succeeding general election and until a
successor has been elected and has qualified for the office.
SECTION 29. Section 202.007(a), Election Code, is amended
to read as follows:
(a) If a vacancy occurs after runoff primary election day,
an independent candidate for the unexpired term must file the
application for a place on the ballot not later than 5 p.m. of the
30th day after the date the vacancy occurs or 5 p.m. of the 70th
[60th] day before general election day, whichever is earlier.
SECTION 30. Section 11.055, Education Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection © to read as
follows:
(a) Except as provided by Subsection ©, an [An]
application of a candidate for a place on the ballot must be filed
not later than 5 p.m. of the 62nd day before the date of the
election. An application may not be filed earlier than the 30th day
before the date of the filing deadline.
© For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 70th day before election day.
SECTION 31. Section 11.056, Education Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (b) and adding Subsection (e) to read as
follows:
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (e), a [A] declaration
of write-in candidacy must be filed not later than 5 p.m. of the
fifth day after the date an application for a place on the ballot is
required to be filed.
(e) For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 32. Subchapter D, Chapter 11, Education Code, is
amended by adding Section 11.168 to read as follows:
Sec. 11.168. ELECTIONEERING PROHIBITED. Notwithstanding
any other law, the board of trustees of an independent school
district may not use state or local funds or other resources of the
district to electioneer for or against any candidate, measure, or
political party.
SECTION 33. Section 130.0825, Education Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (b) and adding Subsection (e) to read as
follows:
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (e), a [A] declaration
of write-in candidacy must be filed not later than 5 p.m. of the
fifth day after the date an application for a place on the ballot is
required to be filed.
(e) For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 34. Section 285.131, Health and Safety Code, is
amended by amending Subsection (d) and adding Subsection (g) to
read as follows:
(d) Except as provided by Subsection (g), a [A] declaration
of write-in candidacy must be filed not later than 5 p.m. of the
fifth day after the date an application for a place on the ballot is
required to be filed.
(g) For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 35. Section 63.0945, Water Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (d) and adding Subsection (f) to read as
follows:
(d) Except as provided by Subsection (f), a [A] declaration
of write-in candidacy must be filed not later than 5 p.m. of the
fifth day after the date an application for a place on the ballot is
required to be filed.
(f) For an election to be held on the date of the general
election for state and county officers, the day of the filing
deadline is the 67th day before election day.
SECTION 36. The secretary of state shall adopt rules as
necessary to implement this Act, including the adjustment of any
affected date, deadline, or procedure.
SECTION 37. This Act takes effect September 1, 2005.




______________________________ ______________________________

President of the Senate Speaker of the House

I certify that H.B. No. 2339 was passed by the House on May
12, 2005, by a non-record vote; and that the House concurred in
Senate amendments to H.B. No. 2339 on May 27, 2005, by a non-record
vote.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 05-24-2008

OK I'm gonna need cliff notes

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Anhil8tor - 05-25-2008

cLaY Wrote:Wrong again. Why vote for someone I don't want in office? Makes sense to me.

So you're going to watch until the end, and if Barack doesn't do anymore than he already has to convince the citizens in America who have half a brain he's the man to lead the country, you'll turn around and vote for McCain just because his middle name isn't Hussein and his pastor doesn't think 911 was a conspiracy. I've got you nailed down dude, you're a white man living in Louisiana who happens to be Baptist...pretty hard not to nail down your political leanings.

Religion is using your fucking brain to decide what you believe in, not follow what people tell you to believe. I was raised in a town where 50% of the churches are Baptist. The church I attend is the polar opposite of those Nazis.

By that logic then I shouldn't vote. You never know what a candidate will do.

All Barak has done is talk. Its not worth listening to yet. I don't vote in preliminary elections. I'll wait till after and look at the sticking points and go with the one whose ideas I like better.

When I was born you were either Catholic or Baptist. I don't adhere to the Baptist religion. My recycling bin would tell you that.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-25-2008

The more education a person gets, the harder religion is to accept.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - morfeeuhs - 05-25-2008

That's the first intelligent thing I've seen you post.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - snarg - 05-26-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:The more education a person gets, the harder religion is to accept.

that's all well and good, but some of the most educated people in the world are very religious
how do you reconcile this paradox??

oh, snap!

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Jimmy - 05-26-2008

Dumb - Religious
Oh so smart - Not religious
Enlightened - Religious.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 05-27-2008

I'm in full agreement with this.


The Clintons keep on coming: fighting imaginary conspiracies, insisting that the delegate count means nothing, that the nomination fight starts now, and on and on. The strategy is clear: when they lose the nomination, they are laying the ground for blaming Obama if he loses in the fall and gearing for another Clinton run in 2012. The logic they are using - who cares about delegate leads? all that matters is the popular vote and Hillary is ahead in the polls against McCain - suggests they will take this to the convention. If they do that, of course, they will help Obama lose the election in November. I think that's now the logic - although, like many sociopaths, they change their mood, argument and demeanor from day to day.


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/now-its-a-cover.html

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 05-27-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'm in full agreement with this.


The Clintons keep on coming: fighting imaginary conspiracies, insisting that the delegate count means nothing, that the nomination fight starts now, and on and on. The strategy is clear: when they lose the nomination, they are laying the ground for blaming Obama if he loses in the fall and gearing for another Clinton run in 2012. The logic they are using - who cares about delegate leads? all that matters is the popular vote and Hillary is ahead in the polls against McCain - suggests they will take this to the convention. If they do that, of course, they will help Obama lose the election in November. I think that's now the logic - although, like many sociopaths, they change their mood, argument and demeanor from day to day.


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/now-its-a-cover.html

How fucked up is that, if it turns out to be true? Maybe, just maybe, she really does want to be the VP and she is going to use the threat of derailing his campaign if he doesn't put her on the ticket?

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