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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-21-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:The debates between Obama and Mccain should be pretty interesting.I'm sure Mccain will talk about experience over and over and it will be funny to see two people with totally opposite views on Iraq debate it.

Mccain did have a rational view on immigration over a year ago but he had to change his stance on that because the base of the GOP is very anti illegal immigration.He never would have come back like he did with out changing his mind on that.

I think the whole republican stand on illegal immigration alone will cost them any chance at this election. And funny thing is, McCain comes from a border state. I would assume that a big chunk of the Arizona economy runs off of a mexican workforce.

I'm not opposed to them doing something to secure the borders so that people don't just come across so easily. But they have got to provide a way for people that are here to stay here and if more workers are needed that work visas can be gotten. There is nothing now, and the Republicans just want to mass exodus all of the ones that are here. Stupidest thing that I have ever heard. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-22-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I think the whole republican stand on illegal immigration alone will cost them any chance at this election. And funny thing is, McCain comes from a border state. I would assume that a big chunk of the Arizona economy runs off of a mexican workforce.

I'm not opposed to them doing something to secure the borders so that people don't just come across so easily. But they have got to provide a way for people that are here to stay here and if more workers are needed that work visas can be gotten. There is nothing now, and the Republicans just want to mass exodus all of the ones that are here. Stupidest thing that I have ever heard. I love you.


I think people who don't want them here just don't understand how our economy works.They see them at walmart or where ever and don't feel comfortable around them and want them out.Immigration really is only an issue to republicans so I'm not sure how much an effect it will have on the election since most latino's werent voting for Mccain anyway.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I think people who don't want them here just don't understand how our economy works.They see them at walmart or where ever and don't feel comfortable around them and want them out.Immigration really is only an issue to republicans so I'm not sure how much an effect it will have on the election since most latino's werent voting for Mccain anyway.

Well, it will keep me from voting for mccain, and I can't think that i am the only business owner out there that will do the same. The only reason that the Republicans haven't been able to push through their immigration package that they wanted was because the businesses blocked them. I can't figure out what vote (other than the stiff shirt republicans that have office jobs and don't understand what workforce the mexican labor provides). And they don't need their vote, they already have it. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

Well Obama and Hillary had their love fest/kid glove debate in Texas last night. I didn't watch it, but caught the reviews and tapes of highlights after. Here's the rundown.

Hillary said that Obama plagerized his speech and that the only kind of change he can bring is with a xerox machine. Obama's reply "whatever. The guy that said that is on my campaign committee and offered me that line because it fit the context of my speech and he thought it was good. Trying to attack that is just silly"

Obama said that he and Hillary offer basically the same policies, but that he offers inspiration and without being able to inspire people, you cannot bring about any change and you will be back to not being able to get anything done. Hillary responded with "I have way more experience than you. If you want someone that can get the job done from Day 1, then I'm your choice. If you want someone that can talk a good game, then Obama is your choice."

Hillary said that Obama had no experience and laughed when she brought up an interview the night before with one of his biggest supporters that couldn't think of a single thing that Obama had done as a Senator. Not one. Obama replied with a list of all the things that he had done.

Hillary summed it up with another emotional ending, on par with the Iowa crying episode, when she turned to shake Obama's hand and she said "I am proud to share the stage with such a fine man. Whoever wins this election will be good for this country and whoever does not has the support of their family and friends."

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

:lool: Obama had a rally at Reunion Arena in Dallas yesterday. There were nearly 20,000 people in attendance. They said the crowds were so large they had to quit screening people for weapons at the entrances so that everyone could get in.

Hillary had a rally in Dallas this morning and the news helicopter doing traffic said that there were about 150 people there. Mostly reporters. That was 30 minutes before she was supposed to speak.

I wonder if she can spell Titanic. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-22-2008

I watched the debate last night.She's done and she knows it.She got booed when she broke out the Xerox line mostly because you could see it coming a mile away and in the grand scheme of things who cares?Theres bigger problems than repeating a sentence of friend of yours came up with.She did the nice nice thing at the end which was her best moment but it was almost like you could see her riding off into the sunset.I wonder if Texas polls continue to go against her will she even make it to that primary.Its going to be an ugly night if she loses by 10 points or whatever.The papers and talk shows will have a field day trouncing on her grave.I can see her backing out before that happens so she can go out on her own terms.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I watched the debate last night.She's done and she knows it.She got booed when she broke out the Xerox line mostly because you could see it coming a mile away and in the grand scheme of things who cares?Theres bigger problems than repeating a sentence of friend of yours came up with.She did the nice nice thing at the end which was her best moment but it was almost like you could see her riding off into the sunset.I wonder if Texas polls continue to go against her will she even make it to that primary.Its going to be an ugly night if she loses by 10 points or whatever.The papers and talk shows will have a field day trouncing on her grave.I can see her backing out before that happens so she can go out on her own terms.

I think that the number of supporters showing up at her rallies might be her personal indication of how things are going moreso than the polls. She can see the crowds at Obama's rallies and she witnesses the crowds at her own. This fucking Obama guy is like a friggin rock star right now. I honestly believe that two weeks ago, Hillary had more supporters in Texas than he does and she probably still does now. The problem is, her supporters aren't the kind of demographic that show up at the polls in large numbers. If Obama's army shows up its going to be a slaughter. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-22-2008

I can't believe that thing about them not checking for weapons at the Obama rally.Is there a guy more ripe to be assasinated in the world right now?A guy who could be the first black president isnt a target?I think the nation would be pretty traumatized if he was killed so maybe have the secret service do their job.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I can't believe that thing about them not checking for weapons at the Obama rally.Is there a guy more ripe to be assasinated in the world right now?A guy who could be the first black president isnt a target?I think the nation would be pretty traumatized if he was killed so maybe have the secret service do their job.

I know. Reunion arena is about 200 yards from where Kennedy was assassinated. I read where the Dallas police were shocked when they were told to "stand down" and take down the metal detectors so people could get inside. They said the word for them to stop searching people came from the Secret Service. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 02-22-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I watched the debate last night.She's done and she knows it.She got booed when she broke out the Xerox line mostly because you could see it coming a mile away and in the grand scheme of things who cares?Theres bigger problems than repeating a sentence of friend of yours came up with.She did the nice nice thing at the end which was her best moment but it was almost like you could see her riding off into the sunset.I wonder if Texas polls continue to go against her will she even make it to that primary.Its going to be an ugly night if she loses by 10 points or whatever.The papers and talk shows will have a field day trouncing on her grave.I can see her backing out before that happens so she can go out on her own terms.
Obama is stealing lines from a dude that's been in office for a year and hasn't done a fucking thing.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-22-2008

Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally
By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.
Star-Telegram Staff Writer


DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena.

The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security.

Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on.

"Sure," said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a "friendly crowd."

The Secret Service did not return a call from the Star-Telegram seeking comment.

Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked.

Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event.

"How can you not be concerned in this day and age," said one policeman.

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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-22-2008

WoolyGoat Wrote:Obama is stealing lines from a dude that's been in office for a year and hasn't done a fucking thing.


He's good friend with the guy and the guy has no problems with him using it.Its like when you quote my basketball knowledge to your friends as your own.Just a gift from your old friend BIRD33 and I don't mind.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-23-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He's good friend with the guy and the guy has no problems with him using it.Its like when you quote my basketball knowledge to your friends as your own.Just a gift from your old friend BIRD33 and I don't mind.

Actually, in the paper today Obama was quoted as saying that the guy is on his campaign committee and "he" suggested Obama use that line in his speech. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-23-2008

Actually thats pretty much what I said.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-23-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Actually thats pretty much what I said.

Actually, not really. What you said makes it sound like the guy heard his quote was used and didn't have a problem. That's a little different than the guy calling up Obama and saying "Hey, I've got a good line from a speech that you should use." I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - WoolyGoat - 02-23-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:He's good friend with the guy and the guy has no problems with him using it.Its like when you quote my basketball knowledge to your friends as your own.Just a gift from your old friend BIRD33 and I don't mind.
I don't care/mind that he grabbed the speech, I just questioned from whom he took it.


to borrow your analogy, that would be like me quoting 8's basketball knowledge to my friends as my own.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-24-2008

Did yall see where a dallas cop died in a motorcycle accident in Hillary's motorcade in dallas yesterday? She cancelled her rally in Dallas and then went to FW and cancelled that one. I love you.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-24-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Did yall see where a dallas cop died in a motorcycle accident in Hillary's motorcade in dallas yesterday? She cancelled her rally in Dallas and then went to FW and cancelled that one. I love you.

She should just cancel her campaign too...fucking cunt

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-24-2008

She better watch her attitude or she's got no shot at the VP spot.

So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-24-2008

Flumper couldn't quite get a handle on the SNL spin tonight. I think it weighed better for Obama (although Flumper hated the guy that tried to imitate him. they have to improve on that). I love you.