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So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:If all across america means cornstalks and cows to you then yes.If were talking about actual people Hillary has the advantage.I don't want a state that has half the people Philadelphia has having more say.
Corn stalks and cows?
S.C., Lousiana, Kansas, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Iowa, Missouri, he's all over the place...
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-14-2008
cLaY Wrote:Corn stalks and cows?
S.C., Lousiana, Kansas, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Iowa, Missouri, he's all over the place...
I saw an update of the number of states that each (Obama/Hillary) have won last night. I can't remember the numbers, but I think that Obama has won 26 states and Hillary about 10 or 12. I love you.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
Obama
Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Conn.
Delaware
D.C.
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minn
Missouri
Nebrask
North Dakota
South Carolina
Utah
Virginia
Washington
Clinton
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Mass
Nevada
N.H.
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Oklahoma
Tenn
Shocking?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
cLaY Wrote:Corn stalks and cows?
S.C., Lousiana, Kansas, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Iowa, Missouri, he's all over the place...
Are you fucking serious?There are more people in the county I live in for than in Iowa,Kansas and Missouri combined.He is doing well in some areas but the big states are what matter.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
cLaY Wrote:Obama
Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Conn.
Delaware
D.C.
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minn
Missouri
Nebrask
North Dakota
South Carolina
Utah
Virginia
Washington
Clinton
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Mass
Nevada
N.H.
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Oklahoma
Tenn
Shocking?
States that matter delegate wise.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:States that matter delegate wise.
and New York is the only state she clearly won more delegates. the rest are fairly close...all of Obama's are clear cut wins delegate wise.
its all gonna come down to super delegates...and they're all gonna see that Hillary doesn't stand a chance against McCain.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
She beats him badly in Texas and he's going to lose a lot of his momentum.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:She beats him badly in Texas and he's going to lose a lot of his momentum.
I dont think she beats him badly, especially since he's dipping into her cash cow now (hispanics, women, -50K white voters)...but she should given that she's campaigning there 3 weeks before they vote. Either way, its still gonna come down to the super delegates...
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
He's going to get killed in Texas.I really believe hispanics down there won't vote for him.Why is Obama in Wisconsin?Same reason Clinton is in texas.Its all strategy, if you win most of the big states and have super delegates in your pocket you're probably going to win.The media really hyped up his victory streak because its a good story but her strategy still has the better chance of succeeding unless he keeps the momentum up.Look at the upcoming big states...Ohio she's favored by 17(141 delegates)...Texas she's up 12(193 delegates).His momentum will hit a wall at that point and he needs to win big in wisconsin to put her on the run and he's only up 4%.I think its definitly possible he can win at this point but don't count out the Clinton political machine.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
I might be wrong 10 minutes after my post.I hope this is right.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Plouffe_She_cant_catch_us.html
Plouffe: She can't catch us
As we wrote last night, Obama has begun to make his own inevitablity case, and David Plouffe made it explicit on a conference call this morning, telling reporters that it's now "next to impossible" for Clinton to surpass what he says is a 136-person lead among pledged delegates.
"The only way she could do it is by winning most of the rest of the contests by 25 to 30 points," he said. "Even the most creative math really does not get her, ever, back to even in terms of pledged delegates."
"This is not about votes -- it's about delegates," Plouffe said.
The other half of this case, of course, is that superdelegates will and/or should follow the pledged delegates.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I might be wrong 10 minutes after my post.I hope this is right.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Plouffe_She_cant_catch_us.html
Plouffe: She can't catch us
As we wrote last night, Obama has begun to make his own inevitablity case, and David Plouffe made it explicit on a conference call this morning, telling reporters that it's now "next to impossible" for Clinton to surpass what he says is a 136-person lead among pledged delegates.
"The only way she could do it is by winning most of the rest of the contests by 25 to 30 points," he said. "Even the most creative math really does not get her, ever, back to even in terms of pledged delegates."
"This is not about votes -- it's about delegates," Plouffe said.
The other half of this case, of course, is that superdelegates will and/or should follow the pledged delegates.
While I really, really, really do hope this is true, you have to remember that it is coming from Barack's campaign manager...still, I don't think he'd be touting this information if there wasn't some truth to it.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
"I am in the solutions business. My opponent is in the promises business," the senator said in McAllen, Texas. "It's not the questions. It's the answers. And the answers get right to the heart of who is ready on Day One to be the president and commander-in-chief of the United States."---Hillary Clinton
Just horrible...
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
this is on the front page of the drudge report.It says Clinton advisors so it could be for real.
NYT THURSDAY: Clinton's advisers acknowledged it would be difficult to catch up in race for pledged delegates even if she succeeded in winning 3 states on which she is most pinning her hopes: Ohio and Texas in March and Pennsylvania in April. Dem party's rules would be decided obstacle in efforts to catch up to Obama before voting phase of nominating process ends later in spring... Developing...
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:this is on the front page of the drudge report.It says Clinton advisors so it could be for real.
NYT THURSDAY: Clinton's advisers acknowledged it would be difficult to catch up in race for pledged delegates even if she succeeded in winning 3 states on which she is most pinning her hopes: Ohio and Texas in March and Pennsylvania in April. Dem party's rules would be decided obstacle in efforts to catch up to Obama before voting phase of nominating process ends later in spring... Developing...
I still find it hard to believe, I mean Barack just gained the lead yesterday...how could it be that "do or die" with just 3 states?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
cLaY Wrote:"I am in the solutions business. My opponent is in the promises business," the senator said in McAllen, Texas. "It's not the questions. It's the answers. And the answers get right to the heart of who is ready on Day One to be the president and commander-in-chief of the United States."---Hillary Clinton
Just horrible...
her experience platform never made sense to me.She's been a senator for 3 years more than obama,big deal and being first lady means she picked out some china patterns and wall paper.I wouldnt elect Laura Bush as head librarian but she's supposedly gotten some foreign policy experience these last 8 years?She depended to much on the fact that her nomination was inevitable and when that feel through she had no fall back plan.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - cLaY - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:her experience platform never made sense to me.She's been a senator for 3 years more than obama,big deal and being first lady means she picked out some china patterns and wall paper.I wouldnt elect Laura Bush as head librarian but she's supposedly gotten some foreign policy experience these last 8 years?She depended to much on the fact that her nomination was inevitable and when that feel through she had no fall back plan.
That's what made this so bitter sweet, even if Barack doesn't end up with the nomination...she still has no hope at all winning the general.
It would be so great seeing the almighty democratic power family going up in flames because of an inspirational senator getting voters the unconventional way.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - BIRD33 - 02-14-2008
John Edwards needs to endorse her tomorrow like that would matter.Watch for her to get really in his face in the next few days, maybe drop the n-bomb to get peoples attention.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 02-14-2008
Why do I feel, no matter whom wins, we all lose?
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-14-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:her experience platform......she picked out some china patterns and wall paper.
:lool: OMFG!
Man, the clinton commercials are hitting the air here in texas. Everytime she comes up I want to force my hand down my throat and hurl. I love you.
So I was watching the State of the Union last night.... - who - 02-14-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote::lool: OMFG!
Man, the clinton commercials are hitting the air here in texas. Everytime she comes up I want to force my hand down my throat and hurl. I love you.
hurl away and you seem really sweet