[WoolyGoat]

this is definitely the type of guy I want promoting safe schools for my kids!!

I got stoned more often and went out to the beach at Bellows, overlooking Honolulu Harbor and the lights of the city, to drink with my buddies on Friday and Saturday nights, spending hours watching the planes take off and land at the airport, which is actually quite fascinating when you are drunk and stoned.

Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's rectum or vagina) often gets a bad rap....[It's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode.

I said, 'What were you doing in Boston on a school night, Brewster?' He got very quiet, and he finally looked at me and said, 'Well I met someone in the bus station bathroom and I went home with him.' High school sophomore, 15 years old' I looked at Brewster and said, 'You know, I hope you knew to use a condom.'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/...g-man-job/

[BIRD33]

I'm not sure what besides being gay makes this guy so horrible.The current president wrote basically the same type of stuff about his drug use and the previous was a coke head.That inflammatory comment you posted wasnt made by him so I'm not sure how its relevant unless being in the same room makes him culpable some how.

That article could have been summed up "Gay guy near our children!Do you want classes taught to your kids about fisting!!!!Gay+ Children = Evil!"

Lets get back to the good old days where we pretend everyones straight and kids arent having sex and not teach them about safe sex.

[Anhil8tor]

I for one am very happy that Obama is our president. Had McCain one he would have tried to push through these same crazy ideas and no one would have cared. Obama has galvanized alot of people on both sides and the democratic party with either reap the benefits of what he forces through or pay dearly.

As of right now I see no difference between Obama and Bush. Both were constantly moving our country towards big government.

[WoolyGoat]

I'm not sure what besides being gay makes this guy so horrible.The current president wrote basically the same type of stuff about his drug use and the previous was a coke head.That inflammatory comment you posted wasnt made by him so I'm not sure how its relevant unless being in the same room makes him culpable some how.

That article could have been summed up "Gay guy near our children!Do you want classes taught to your kids about fisting!!!!Gay+ Children = Evil!"

Lets get back to the good old days where we pretend everyones straight and kids arent having sex and not teach them about safe sex.

I knew that's exactly what you'd say.

I don't care that he's gay, I care that he's a remorseless drug user. I care that the dude had a 15 year old boy come to him and talk about a sexual relationship he was having with an older guy, and he didn't think he should tell anyone about that?

Teaching about homosexuality is fine with me, creating a safe place for homosexuality is fine with me. Actually promoting it in schools is taking it too far. Straight or gay, I don't really think fisting has a place in schools either, call me crazy.

[BIRD33]

I for one am very happy that Obama is our president. Had McCain one he would have tried to push through these same crazy ideas and no one would have cared. Obama has galvanized alot of people on both sides and the democratic party with either reap the benefits of what he forces through or pay dearly.

As of right now I see no difference between Obama and Bush. Both were constantly moving our country towards big government.

The difference is Obama was honest about big government.Bush lied to you on several fronts.

If you had one and I really mean just one person who could challenge Obama from the GOP I would be worried he's hurting himself with health care.The GOP is beyond repair at this point and will move left before it returns to any kind of real importance.Its the party of white southerners now and the demographics don't support a return to power with only whites in a party.Mark my words the next republican president will be pro gay, pro amnesty for immigration.The train has left the station for 60% of americans on those issues and for the younger generation of voter coming up its tilted even further left.

A perfect example of how fucked up the GOP is right now is your most qualified and seemingly competent candidate is Romney and the base of your party will never support him because he's a mormon.Its like they are saying "look we're not racist against people of color, we even discriminate against other whites."

Get ready for Hillary for 8 years after Obama and then maybe a gop return to power due to people being fatigued by Democrats in office for 16 years and wanting a change in party at the top.I doubt the GOP will still be 90% white by then, its not good for business.Get those 2024 bumper stickers ready.

[BIRD33]

I knew that's exactly what you'd say.

I don't care that he's gay, I care that he's a remorseless drug user. I care that the dude had a 15 year old boy come to him and talk about a sexual relationship he was having with an older guy, and he didn't think he should tell anyone about that?

Teaching about homosexuality is fine with me, creating a safe place for homosexuality is fine with me. Actually promoting it in schools is taking it too far. Straight or gay, I don't really think fisting has a place in schools either, call me crazy.

We are defining remorseless drug user as a guy who got stoned in high school and drank alcohol?Something 99% of people do?Wouldnt it be nice to live in a world where people didnt have to throw themselves at the mercy of the court and pretend what they did was a terrible thing despite knowing everyone judging you did the same thing?He said he did it, big deal.He's not promoting it.Did you even know who held this position when we were in school and did that persons childhood transgressions have any bearing on what you experimented with?Its that simpsons quote "Somebody think of the children!" in real life.


He's promoting understanding of gays in school.Thats it.Do we really believe there will be glory hole classes or something?

Either you are misreading that article or willfully misinterpreting it because he didnt say anything about fisting.A speaker at a conference he was at did and he said "From what I've heard, I have concerns as well,".Pretty cut and dry.

The kid who came to him was gay and not being molested.If it was a 15 year old girl and a 19 year old man nobody would give a shit.

[WoolyGoat]

We are defining remorseless drug user as a guy who got stoned in high school and drank alcohol?Something 99% of people do?Wouldnt it be nice to live in a world where people didnt have to throw themselves at the mercy of the court and pretend what they did was a terrible thing despite knowing everyone judging you did the same thing?He said he did it, big deal.He's not promoting it.Did you even know who held this position when we were in school and did that persons childhood transgressions have any bearing on what you experimented with?Its that simpsons quote "Somebody think of the children!" in real life.


He's promoting understanding of gays in school.Thats it.Do we really believe there will be glory hole classes or something?

Either you are misreading that article or willfully misinterpreting it because he didnt say anything about fisting.A speaker at a conference he was at did and he said "From what I've heard, I have concerns as well,".Pretty cut and dry.

The kid who came to him was gay and not being molested.If it was a 15 year old girl and a 19 year old man nobody would give a shit.

I happen to think that people in these lofty positions should be held to a higher standard than "99%" of people. At the very least he should acknowledge that his drug use was a serious mistake. I just don't see how he can set a good example to kids.

And it wasn't just a speaker at a conference he was at, it was a speaker for the group HE FOUNDED.

As a teacher, it's your duty to report that kind of activity, there's no way around that. Sure, maybe a 15 year old girl and a 19 year old guy isn't a big deal to most people, but as a teacher it doesn't and shouldn't matter. And this case wasn't a young girl and a slightly older teen, it was a young boy and an older man. He let his personal agenda get in the way of his moral duty as a teacher and authority figure.

[BIRD33]

I happen to think that people in these lofty positions should be held to a higher standard than "99%" of people. At the very least he should acknowledge that his drug use was a serious mistake. I just don't see how he can set a good example to kids.

And it wasn't just a speaker at a conference he was at, it was a speaker for the group HE FOUNDED.

As a teacher, it's your duty to report that kind of activity, there's no way around that. Sure, maybe a 15 year old girl and a 19 year old guy isn't a big deal to most people, but as a teacher it doesn't and shouldn't matter. And this case wasn't a young girl and a slightly older teen, it was a young boy and an older man. He let his personal agenda get in the way of his moral duty as a teacher and authority figure.

The last three presidents, one I'm sure you voted for and was unrepentant about his drug use, were drug users.The longer we kid ourselves that people don't do things like that the more time and money we'll waste on things like the war on drugs.

He founded a group so he's automatically responsible for every single sentence a person makes at a conference?I don't think so.He said he disagreed with the guy so I'm not sure what else you want him to do except build a time machine and unfound the group or abort the speaker during conception.

You may be right about the last thing but the details of the events arent clear enough to make any definitive judgments on the issue.

I take issue with the title of this thread."Another" leads one to believe that there are a bunch of crazy czars running around creating havoc and bringing back feudalism.Who are the other wingnuts?Its the glen beck crowd who see the word "czar" and think they are living the movie "Red Dawn" that are the real problem.

[BIRD33]

http://vimeo.com/6747788

Why can't we embed these?

[leeman]

http://vimeo.com/6747788

Why can't we embed these?

I'm too lazy to allow them ...

[BIRD33]

I'm too lazy to allow them ...

Thats understandable.

I found a picture of 8 and Quint at a BBQ last weekend.

[quint]

so we can't be critical of obama without being racist?
as usual bird calls pulls the race card

[BIRD33]

so we can't be critical of obama without being racist?
as usual bird calls pulls the race card

Way to prove you arent racist by posting a borderline racist picture.

I'm just not hearing any real substantive reasons why you oppose his policies except vague references to socialism and other crap that makes little sense.We are in a hole.Things need to change.Status quo will not work.

[quint]

you need to get the sand out of your vagina.
post a 1960's redneck picture, and get upset whenever it's done back at you.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[BIRD33]

I'd say the guy with the picture thats some type of get out of racist jail free card waiting in the wings at all times might be a little more sensitive.

[quint]

its called a search on google

[BIRD33]

See if you can search on google for a real reason to oppose Obama.A actual policy disagreement with a alternative solution would be nice.

[quint]

i'm too busy trying to search b level slow pitch softball stats in lower bucks county

[BIRD33]

It shouldnt be that hard.Not too many blacks batting in the high .600's playing in leagues in buck county.They make me leave before sundown.

[quint]

600 in slow pitch !
what a guy
better get the intelligencer on that story