[Moto]

Premature, as usual.

[BIRD33]

Kind of like shitting on a guy 40 days into office even though he's just cleaning up other peoples messes.

[Anhil8tor]

Kind of like shitting on a guy 40 days into office even though he's just cleaning up other peoples messes.

I'm not shitting on him. Just pointing out he has more that a couple of guys that have some kind of baggage with them. Is he at fault for trying to give them jobs? Is it his cabinet or whomever should do the background check? How is it that you find no issue with it at all?

[BIRD33]

I'm not shitting on him. Just pointing out he has more that a couple of guys that have some kind of baggage with them. Is he at fault for trying to give them jobs? Is it his cabinet or whomever should do the background check? How is it that you find no issue with it at all?

I find no issue at all since its been going on forever.Do you think that Obama is the first president to offer a job to someone and have them turn it down for the same reasons?It seems to me you've moved onto the next flavor of the month talking point now that you can't call him the pied piper since the market is moving upward.The problem with this flavor of the month is its no different than any previous administration faced.I kind of don't remember a peep out of you when GW tried to appoint his personal lawyer to the supreme court which is a lifetime appointment not something you can get fired from.She dropped out because it turned out she had her own baggage and wasnt smart enough.Where was the outrage then?How bout when he tried to appoint Guiliani's buddy Bernie Kerick to the head of homeland security but he had to resign from consideration when ooops it turned out he was fucking his girl friend in an apartment over looking ground zero which was paid for by tax payers?Obama you incompetent asshole!Give me a break.

You're so transparent its pathetic but the comical part is you think you are making good points when in fact most of the issues you have criticisms about its obvious this is the first time you've ever thought about that issue.

[Anhil8tor]

I find no issue at all since its been going on forever..

But what about change?

[Moto]

:lool: Just what exactly has he cleaned up?

[BIRD33]

But what about change?

How can Obama change peoples past or desire to not deal with a high pressure job for less pay then they could make the private sector?Seriously 8 answer that.

[BIRD33]

:lool: Just what exactly has he cleaned up?

We don't torture anymore.Hows that rate?

[Anhil8tor]

How can Obama change peoples past or desire to not deal with a high pressure job for less pay then they could make the private sector?Seriously 8 answer that.

I was kinda thinking change would be not having to say "Its been that way forever" or "I'm not doing anything different than the previous guy"

[BIRD33]

I was kinda thinking change would be not having to say "Its been that way forever" or "I'm not doing anything different than the previous guy"

Do we agree that all we've seen is people turning it down because of money issues as in not getting paid enough and people worried about their taxes looking funny?

What could have Obama changed about this?

Stop saying "whats change about this?" when save Obama paying people under the table or investigating if each guy he considers is having an affair is what you want your president to do.

Seriously saying "whats Changed" is not a valid argument unless you follow it up with a sentence or two on what he could or should have done differently.You just look intellectually dishonest, lazy or stupid.I bet you can't do that because that would take effort to learn more then what talk radio tells you.

[WoolyGoat]

I find no issue at all since its been going on forever.Do you think that Obama is the first president to offer a job to someone and have them turn it down for the same reasons?It seems to me you've moved onto the next flavor of the month talking point now that you can't call him the pied piper since the market is moving upward.The problem with this flavor of the month is its no different than any previous administration faced.I kind of don't remember a peep out of you when GW tried to appoint his personal lawyer to the supreme court which is a lifetime appointment not something you can get fired from.She dropped out because it turned out she had her own baggage and wasnt smart enough.Where was the outrage then?How bout when he tried to appoint Guiliani's buddy Bernie Kerick to the head of homeland security but he had to resign from consideration when ooops it turned out he was fucking his girl friend in an apartment over looking ground zero which was paid for by tax payers?Obama you incompetent asshole!Give me a break.

You're so transparent its pathetic but the comical part is you think you are making good points when in fact most of the issues you have criticisms about its obvious this is the first time you've ever thought about that issue.

so you've spent years ripping on W for all the crap he messed up and the stuff he did wrong...and now that Obama is doing some of the same stuff your excuse is "it's ok because Bush did it too?"

how on earth does that make sense?

[BIRD33]

so you've spent years ripping on W for all the crap he messed up and the stuff he did wrong...and now that Obama is doing some of the same stuff your excuse is "it's ok because Bush did it too?"

how on earth does that make sense?

Read the rest of what I wrote.What could Obama have done differently?He offered a job to people and they turned it down.Answer that.

I point out GW because when you cheer lead failed policies which have left this nation crippled your opinions are not valid on how to fix the messes you backed.Sorry its that way in business and life.

[BIRD33]

We've got two guys who are adamant Obama screwed up and want the change he promised.Question.What should he have done differently?

Cue the crickets.

[WoolyGoat]

does he not do any homework before offering jobs to these people?

[BIRD33]

does he not do any homework before offering jobs to these people?

Which guy in particular do you have a problem with?I'm going to guess nobody.From what I've read nobody had issues that were so bad they still couldnt serve.Other people dropped out because of family BS or because they wouldnt get paid enough.

Do you think its a little harder now to get someone to work at treasury and ultimately take the blame for not fixing a huge economic meltdown then it was during the dot com boom when money was rolling in?

You and 8 need two straws for those kool aid talking points you're drinking.

[Moto]

We don't torture anymore.Hows that rate?

You believe that?

[BIRD33]

You believe that?

Yea.I guess you've got the inside info right?Goat and 8 here's your constituency.

[WoolyGoat]

call me crazy but I guess I'm just uncomfortable with a tax cheat running the treasury.

[BIRD33]

call me crazy but I guess I'm just uncomfortable with a tax cheat running the treasury.

Would it shock you to hear that he isnt the first appointed official thats made a mistake on his taxes?Goat have you ever made a mistake on your taxes?Does that make you a "cheat"?How many people would have to leave office on both sides if no tax mistakes was a requirement?Can Obama change people from making mistakes on taxes years before they ever met him?Is that what you took his campaign promise to mean?Are you really that willingly obtuse like 8?

Heres where you say "well I'm not treasury secretary" and I respond by saying he wasnt treasury secretary either at the time and if you had a choice between the best guy for the job who made a mistake on his taxes or an average guy who has a clean tax record who would you choose to get you out of a deep hole like we are in?

Anybody else you have a problem with because you seem to be saying its more then one guy when you ask if he does his homework when asking these people .So who else do you think Obama has failed to bring change with by asking for them to fix the mess he was left with?

[WoolyGoat]

if he can't even do his own taxes, how is he possibly the best person for the job? the guy can't even manage his own household's finances and he is the #1 qualified person to manage the finances of the entire country?

if someone was behind the wheel and at fault during a serious car accident, I don't want them to be a school bus driver. if someone got busted drunk driving, they shouldn't later be appointed the head of the dmv.

obviously it's not Obama's fault the Geithner and others have had tax problems, but why has he put himself in the line of fire be appointing them anyway. he's either lazy, ignorant, or stubborn, and I think stubborn is the obvious choice.




yeah I know, bush did the same stuff. yawn.