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8.2 had his trimmed off.
Did you know that they actually use that skin in some surgeries? Chef had a little bit put on his foot where they removed his toe because being diabetic it would take him longer to heal.
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BIRD33 Wrote:They have a good chance of getting or giving either or 16 years after birth.
I wouldn't say they have a "good chance" :S 79% of people in America living with HIV are gay men or IV drug users. 0.33% is the overall estimated incidence.
HPV is 7.35% and HPV is the strain least related to the incidence of cervical cancer.
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BIRD33 Wrote:The real % is the complications that are obvious right at the time of the circumcision because no doctor is getting sued for a botched one 35 years after he did it.
You don't hear of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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BIRD33 Wrote:
Dr. Bertran Auvert of the University of Versailles in France and colleagues in South Africa tested more than 1,200 men visiting a clinic in South Africa,[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28283510/#storyContinued][/url]
They found under 15 percent of the circumcised men and 22 percent of the uncircumcised men were infected with HPV, which is the main cause of cervical cancer and genital warts.
Almost 25%.
You should link the entire study.
And I was talking American incidence rates because well, that seems more relevant than France. :S
And yeah, I was mistaken. The strain of HPV that causes genital warts is the least likely to cause cervical cancer.
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HPV Proven Major Cause of Throat Cancer
It's the leading cause of cervical cancer and is now believed to be the major cause of oropharyngeal (throat, tongue and tonsil) cancers.
The human papillomavirus — more commonly known as HPV — causes more oropharyngeal cancers than tobacco and alcohol use, according to researchers at Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center.
"This is important because previously HPV was thought to be one of the risk factors for this type of cancer along with tobacco and alcohol use, and now we know that it is the leading cause of this type of cancer," said Dr. Aimee Kreimer, a professor at the National Cancer Institute and one of the study’s authors.
Oral HPV is transmitted during oral sex and people with multiple oral sex partners are at the greatest risk for contracting the disease, said Kreimer.
Study participants who reported having more than six oral sex partners in their lifetime were 8.6 times more likely to develop the HPV-linked cancer, the study showed.
I never knew this.
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HPV is a non-issue for me. Cervical cancer is highly treatable.
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i find the throat cancer news a bit disturbing
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snarg Wrote:i find the throat cancer news a bit disturbing
cause of all the cock you smoke, right?
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Double whammy.
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tweety, you are just too damn transparent
if you were uncut, you would be citing all the other evidence
admit it, tool, you can't even imagine sex with a foreskin, so you negate the advantage
so fucking weak
and being third to make the same lame joke??
you used to be much better
has it come to bashing blondie and justifying cutting foreskins??
yeah, IT will definitely fold if you leave :bew:
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I think it comes down to an elitist issue. Being uncut means you are poor. Being cut means you can afford it. Thanks.
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How did a thread about weed get turned into a cock off?
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BIRD33 Wrote:I can't find the study but the WHO seems to be relying on it.It was S African people and a French doctor.
So now that this study by the Johns Hopkins has made it pretty clear that there is a benefit to circumcision are you prepared to alter your thinking on as to if it is really unnecessary?
No, for a couple of reasons:
My infant son has no risk of any of those things. Like I said before, if he feels that cutting off his foreskin is his best defense against HPV or HIV, he's free to do so as an independent adult.
The study says "may" cut the risk, not will cut the risk. (pun intentional)
African Americans and Hispanics are most at risk for HIV. My son(?) will be neither.
One study is not nearly enough to change the perspective that the medical risks outweigh the benefits. This is not true for me personally, nor is it impacting the medical community. There are hundreds of studies claiming harm. This one doesn't change those things.
The John Hopkins study tested only AA men.
Plus
Quote:Studies supporting circumcision to reduce HIV transmission had all been done in Africa and U.S. studies were less clear.
The study's only conclusion was
Quote:circumcision may afford an additional means of protection from HIV in these at-risk minorities."
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Bill Wrote:How did a thread about weed get turned into a cock off?
Bird mentioned it first. He will argue that white is black. And he has.
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