[fermundacheese]

Originally posted by leucetios@Jun 28 2004, 07:00 PM
Which I agree with. Having said that let me ask you one question.  Do you at least see bdics point? Even if you don't agree with it?

Let me lay it out the way I understand his thought:  If all people do is post in the shoutbox (or play in the arcade) and no one posts on the board itself, then the board will die.  And place to have a free exchange of ideas or not, IT will cease to be.

Ignore his means for a second. Can you empathize with the basis for his action? I know I can, even though I disagree with him shutting down the shoutbox (things like that just draw a line between the users on the board and the mods/admins.

The shoutbox shouldn't have been shut down, but [b]post more people (yes, including me) [/b]

I can ABSOLUTELY see his reasoning and I can absolutely see why he did what he did. It was an effort to get more posts and less chatting (hell, the topic alone added 12 posts to my total).

I agree with everything you wrote here, leu. You are right.

The fact remains, and I won't budge on this, bdic, you turned off a means of communication because you threw a temper tantrum, period. Post something out here that says "Hey, this isn't a chat room. If people don't stop spending 98% of their time in the shoutbox and start posted threads, the shoutbox will be removed".

You would have gotten your point across and nothing would have been shut down. I also don't think turning the shoutbox off was censorship. That word is used everytime someone isn't allowed to call a rival an asshole. Censorship is something the government does, not some admin on a fucking website.

OK, rant off...

bdic, you don't care, I know, but I have nothing personal against you. I roll my eyes at some of the stuff you post and ignore other stuff. Many times I laugh my ass off at what you posted because I'm in the right mood at the right time. I called you on this because I think your actions were wrong. I understand the motive, but the actions were wrong, period.

I'm not going to continue this because I don't dig all the drama. I have my point of view and you guys have yours. I won't lose any sleep if we disagree and neither will you, right? And I'll still enjoy the hell out of InsaneTrain because it's a great site.

[Undeadcannibal]

oh, the drama!

[VitaminE]

bdic is Randy Moss

[leeman]

I'm not gonna comment this more then needed.

I installed the shout box for a reson. That reson is to NOT have a gazillion thread wtih " Hi Everyone". And I have to say Bdic is a werry good person in getting you all to react and post.
And like Leu said ( I think) this is a post board. I had plans on installing a "Shout Card" that means you get a limited amount of shouts/day and more / post.... But fuck I shouldn't need such stuff. So it wont be installed.
Well we all are here to be amused and have fun, sometimes grossed out as well. And there IS no wrong in starting bullshit threads they can evolve into a great post lenght. Just look at this one.

Just sayin' nothing was wrongly done here and you all got the message and started to post. Fuck this thread is 5 pages....

So have fun and enjoy ppl. When I roll out the new site engine the arcade will have to be delayed due to conversion things.... But it will be there later. And we could talk about the games if so wanted.

PPL Here have diffrent likings in diffrent matters, some like to game, some like to flame, some like to spank the monkey... WHO FUKKIN cares... We are all here to have a relief in the grey dull work day so HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Velvet]

Shout card .... I would be screwed :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[CodeWarrior]

I think you post enough to be safe. :p

[Beaucephus]

Originally posted by fermundacheese@Jun 28 2004, 06:55 PM
When I came over here, everybody was quick to point out how this was an open forum and that people could post and say whatever they wanted without the admins or moderators messing with that ability.

If that's the case, he should never have turned it off.  Maybe it's frustrating that the shoutbox is used so much.  If that's the case, turn it off permanently, not because of a temper-tantrum.  It works very well for quick messages and promotes communication between members which, last time I checked, was a good thing.

Nobody is going to post anything out here that will change my mind.  If you want an open exchange of ideas, you can't have the people with more authority deciding for the users how those ideas will be exchanged.

:angry:

I really don't know what the fuck happened here but I will say this. It isn't for any of us to decide how someone should post to this board. I would say removing the shoutbox for any period of time is a bit extreme. You can't just make people do shit like that. Brings back reminders of UJ. I don't know what's going on around here. I hope it ends and quickly. :|

[lad]

good thread with lots of arguments.

can we have less threads like this though, took me ages to read!!!

[minorthreat]

This thread sux and is gax.