[Velvet]

Im staying out of this one ....

[minorthreat]

I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

[Banana]

Originally posted by minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 10:45 PM
I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

How do you get so far up bdic's ass MT?

[APB]

This is getting old. Some people need to grow up. If you want people to post then maybe you or whoever shut down the box can just say so. Instead of being a baby and creating a bullshit thread like this one.....just sayin of course

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by iamabanana+Jun 28 2004, 10:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(iamabanana @ Jun 28 2004, 10:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 10:45 PM
I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

How do you get so far up bdic's ass MT? [/b][/quote]
I gots a big penis.

[fermundacheese]

Originally posted by bdic@Jun 28 2004, 04:44 PM
Just the sacrificial virgin, fermunda.&nbsp; That's all I am.

Hey, if you didn't shut it down, my apologies. If you did, it was a bullshit move...

Just sayin'

[bdic]

Originally posted by minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 04:45 PM
I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

No apology from me. I didn't censor anyone. I didn't delete anything. I didn't change anyone's post.

You don't like it? Fuck off.

Ya'll better watch it. I'll do the same thing to the Arcade. It's been shut down once before because it was taking away from the forum---and it wasn't me who did it.

[APB]

Originally posted by fem+Jun 28 2004, 10:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fem @ Jun 28 2004, 10:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by APB@Jun 28 2004, 10:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-fem@Jun 28 2004, 10:30 PM
[b] I agree.......... 

APB - I have called bdic and MT assholes and dicks a lot. They have heard it from everyone else as well. This is no new news. wow... :whee:

And your point would be? [/b]

You asked if anyone had ever called Bdic a dick before, so I told you. [/b][/quote]
It's all good Fem, I figured everyone on here has once or twice.

[mad_hatter]

everything he does is a bullshit move :angry:

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by bdic+Jun 28 2004, 10:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bdic @ Jun 28 2004, 10:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 04:45 PM
I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

No apology from me. I didn't censor anyone. I didn't delete anything. I didn't change anyone's post.

You don't like it? Fuck off.

Ya'll better watch it. I'll do the same thing to the Arcade. It's been shut down once before because it was taking away from the forum---and it wasn't me who did it. [/b][/quote]
Looks as if bdic is up someones ass. Not me.

[Banana]

Originally posted by minorthreat+Jun 28 2004, 10:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(minorthreat @ Jun 28 2004, 10:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by iamabanana@Jun 28 2004, 10:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 10:45 PM
[b] I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

How do you get so far up bdic's ass MT? [/b]

I gots a big penis. [/b][/quote]
Prove it

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by mad_hatter@Jun 28 2004, 10:49 PM
everything he does is a bullshit move :angry:

Agreed, that fuck is in my dome pretty far as well.

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by iamabanana+Jun 28 2004, 10:50 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(iamabanana @ Jun 28 2004, 10:50 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by iamabanana@Jun 28 2004, 10:46 PM
[b] <!--QuoteBegin-minorthreat@Jun 28 2004, 10:45 PM
[b] I don't bdic can shut it down. If he did he was wrong and will apologize to all of you. Right bdic. <_<

How do you get so far up bdic's ass MT? [/b]

I gots a big penis. [/b]

Prove it [/b][/quote]
I'll send you a pm.

[fermundacheese]

Originally posted by bdic@Jun 28 2004, 04:48 PM
No apology from me.&nbsp; I didn't censor anyone.&nbsp; I didn't delete anything.&nbsp; I didn't change anyone's post.

You don't like it?&nbsp; Fuck off.

Ya'll better watch it.&nbsp; I'll do the same thing to the Arcade.&nbsp; It's been shut down once before because it was taking away from the forum---and it wasn't me who did it.

Hmmm. Just regressed back to three-years-old again...

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by fermundacheese+Jun 28 2004, 10:56 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fermundacheese @ Jun 28 2004, 10:56 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-bdic@Jun 28 2004, 04:48 PM
No apology from me.&nbsp; I didn't censor anyone.&nbsp; I didn't delete anything.&nbsp; I didn't change anyone's post.

You don't like it?&nbsp; Fuck off.

Ya'll better watch it.&nbsp; I'll do the same thing to the Arcade.&nbsp; It's been shut down once before because it was taking away from the forum---and it wasn't me who did it.

Hmmm. Just regressed back to three-years-old again...

[/b][/quote]
I'd say more like 4 year olds.

[Devious]

Originally posted by bdic@Jun 28 2004, 05:48 PM


Ya'll better watch it.&nbsp; I'll do the same thing to the Arcade.&nbsp; It's been shut down once before because it was taking away from the forum---and it wasn't me who did it.

Yep.. I did it. And I will do it again if needed.. He does have a point. This is a message board not a chat room. Sometimes we do get out of hand with the shoutbox(including myself). We can put all that fun into a thread instead of wasting it in the shoutbox.

[leucetios]

I'd say yes and no. A lot of the shoutbox stuff could go into a thread, but really some of the stuff in the shoutbox wouldn't be the same in a thread. bdic does have a point though, and we (I include us all) should try to post threads as well as shout. Any dumb thread, it doesn't have to be a funny pic, or a link, post a question, post anything to get people talking. The shoutbox won't encourage new users, threads do that.


EDIT: The arcade is something else. There's no interaction there. The shoutbox is like a dynamic thread, with people interaction. They are two different creatures.



Last Thought: I restarted the shoutbox today, because while bdic had a point, I don't necessarily think he was right to make that call. Threads may have suffered, but interaction and the community on the board didn't. And a lot of people felt censored and like power was being used to force them to do what a mod (or Admin if you like) wanted. Echoes of other places stirred, so I reset it.

[fermundacheese]

When I came over here, everybody was quick to point out how this was an open forum and that people could post and say whatever they wanted without the admins or moderators messing with that ability.

If that's the case, he should never have turned it off. Maybe it's frustrating that the shoutbox is used so much. If that's the case, turn it off permanently, not because of a temper-tantrum. It works very well for quick messages and promotes communication between members which, last time I checked, was a good thing.

Nobody is going to post anything out here that will change my mind. If you want an open exchange of ideas, you can't have the people with more authority deciding for the users how those ideas will be exchanged.

:angry:

[leucetios]

Originally posted by fermundacheese@Jun 28 2004, 03:55 PM
When I came over here, everybody was quick to point out how this was an open forum and that people could post and say whatever they wanted without the admins or moderators messing with that ability.

If that's the case, he should never have turned it off.&nbsp; Maybe it's frustrating that the shoutbox is used so much.&nbsp; If that's the case, turn it off.&nbsp; It works very well for quick messages and promotes communication between members which, last time I checked, was a good thing.

Nobody is going to post anything out here that will change my mind.&nbsp; [b]If you want an open exchange of ideas, you can't have the people with more authority deciding for the users how those ideas will be exchanged.

:angry: [/b]

Which I agree with. Having said that let me ask you one question. Do you at least see bdics point? Even if you don't agree with it?

Let me lay it out the way I understand his thought: If all people do is post in the shoutbox (or play in the arcade) and no one posts on the board itself, then the board will die. And place to have a free exchange of ideas or not, IT will cease to be.

Ignore his means for a second. Can you empathize with the basis for his action? I know I can, even though I disagree with him shutting down the shoutbox (things like that just draw a line between the users on the board and the mods/admins.

The shoutbox shouldn't have been shut down, but post more people (yes, including me)

[bdic]

My last thought on this issue:

Do you really think I didn't realize at least two other people with the ability to turn it back on were online at the time I shut it off?

Do you really think I didn't know they both would immediately go and fire it back up?

That said, I didn't do anything that couldn't be undone---very quickly at that.

There is a hierarchy at these boards. Nothing will ever change that. There will always be a line between those that can perform admin functions and those who can't. Why? Because certain people need to be able to bring board functions back to life. To give that ability to everybody would be irresponsible--and a person who didn't know exactly what they were doing could fuck the site up permanently, either purposely or not.

When this board was started, I was a mod. I gave up the privilege for my own reasons. It certainly wasn't due to an abuse of power on my part. I see a HUGE difference between admin function and mod function. I also see a HUGE difference between what can be done in an admin role and what is typically done in a mod role.

My stance, as it has always been, is complete freedom to say/post what you want. Turning off the shoutbox had NOTHING to do with anyone being censored. You still had your voice. No response was or has been altered. That is 'free speech'. All I did was direct you to put your opinions in a place where everyone would see them beyond the 30 seconds that they appear in the shoutbox (unless you sift throught that fuckin' thing looking for comments---doubtful).

You don't like it? Tough shit.

Leeman can remove my admin privilege any time he wants to. He knows I really don't give a fuck. He also knows what I use the function for. He has record of everything I do. He is well aware of the 'stunts' I've pulled in the past to drive traffic. This was just another stunt. And once again it worked.

I will say this one last time. Nobody was censored. Nobody's post was altered, moved, deleted, etc. You can't deny that.

Now, if any of you can't see the forest, I suggest you fall down and roll around like the pre-toddlers you are.