[Anhil8tor]

Boston Red Sox: $143,123,714
Cleveland Indians: $61,289,667
Colorado Rockies: $42,224,000

[BIRD33]

Money well spent.

[WoolyGoat]

gotta keep up with the Joneses

[Tribal Dragon]

gotta keep up with the Joneses

How well is that workin' out for ya?

[BIRD33]

gotta keep up with the Joneses

Thats how you know you're NY's little bitch brother.They waste money so you have to?

[WoolyGoat]

How well is that workin' out for ya?

um, we did better than the Joneses. but thanks.

Thats how you know you're NY's little bitch brother.They waste money so you have to?

No, the Sox waste money because of stupid signings. They paid a pretty penny for Dice-K, but he's not the problem, well at least not yet.

The problem is Renteria and Drew. Clement and Pineiro. Their payroll is so high because they're spending tons of cash to (try to) correct their mistakes. They happen to have enough money to be able to do that.

[BIRD33]

um, we did better than the Joneses. but thanks.


No, the Sox waste money because of stupid signings. They paid a pretty penny for Dice-K, but he's not the problem, well at least not yet.

The problem is Renteria and Drew. Clement and Pineiro. Their payroll is so high because they're spending tons of cash to (try to) correct their mistakes. They happen to have enough money to be able to do that.

Who are the Jones you speak of if not the Yankees?Didnt you sign Dice K just so the Yanks couldnt?Buying your way to a ring but not winning anything is Yankees 101.You are they and they are you, I know it goes against everything it means to be a Sox fan(at one time) but when you double the payroll of the team you end up losing to and as a fan think thats normal I say welcome to arrogant fandom.It's just really ironic that this image you guys(sox fans) have built up, were proud of and perpetuated about you against the evil empire is completly destroyed without a peep from sox fans.It all points to being jealous of the yanks the whole time.

[WoolyGoat]

I've never complained about the Yankees payroll, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you hate your rivals because they're good. Why do you think no one (Yankee fans included) hated the Red Sox for so long? They were never good enough. Now they are, and now plenty of people hate them.

As much as I dislike the Yankees, it's got nothing to do with money. Steinbrenner may be a lot of things, but he wants the Yankees to win, and he does whatever he can to make that happen. There are plenty of owners in pro sports who make TONS of money and put NOTHING back into the team. The same fans who complain about their owners not spending money on the team are the ones whining about the Sox and Yankees spending so much.

[BIRD33]

I think fans who whine about the sox and yanks are justified.Its an inherently unfair system for a Kansas City or Pittsburgh to have to compete with the juggernaut that is the Yankees and Sox.Owners are in this for the money including steinbrenner.Giving an owner shit for not spending money when he say takes in only 50 million in profit compared to the 500 mill the Yanks take in is ridiculous.Steinbrenner doesnt have to make tough decisions like a kansas city would that will really hurt his bottom line when he basically has a license to print money.I think sox fans used to get that but not anymore.You'll probably say thats just the world we live in but I'll say you guys are just like the yankees.

[BIRD33]

Oh and I think people didnt hate the sox because they were the little guy trying to stick it to the evil empire.Now theres no difference.

[WoolyGoat]

Minnesotans ('sup E?) are going to cry like babies when Santana goes to Boston or New York...but the reality is that douche Pohlad can afford to pay Santana whatever he wants, yet he chooses not to.

I hear what you're saying about it not being fair, though. That's why New York (either team) and Boston win the world series EVERY year, right?

[BIRD33]

Minnesotans ('sup E?) are going to cry like babies when Santana goes to Boston or New York...but the reality is that douche Pohlad can afford to pay Santana whatever he wants, yet he chooses not to.

I hear what you're saying about it not being fair, though. That's why New York (either team) and Boston win the world series EVERY year, right?

What world are you living in where you think Minnesota is on the same playing field as NY?A baseball owner is a business man first and foremost.He's got a number he needs to make in profit just like the Yankees do.The Yanks happen to have a television network that is worth a billion dollars.You can't say with a straight face that the owner of the twins could pay dollar for dollar what the yanks or sox do for players and still survive.

What teams make the playoffs every year and if they don't for some odd reason have the resources to over pay for players other teams want but can't break the bank to get?There are 3 or 4 teams besides the yanks and sox that can spend outrageously for players but everyone else has to catch lightning in a bottle(colorado).Its a stupid system and everyone outside of boston and new york recognizes it and actually wants to do something about it.

[WoolyGoat]

Teams catch lightning in a bottle and win more frequently than do the big spenders. Florida wins world series. The Angels won the world series before Arte Moreno bought the team. The Cards' payroll wasn't enormous. Minnesota and Oakland are in contention virtually every year. The Yankees haven't won anything since their payroll got absurdly out of hand.

Every fan who complains about their owner being cheap wants their owner to spend money. In that other thread, Tribal was complaining about the Rocks' owners probably trying to get rid of Helton and not re-signing Holliday. Translation: I hope the owners spend as much money as they need to to keep this guys.

[BIRD33]

What if the teams resources don't allow itself to compete with a team that makes double the revenue?Is that the owners fault?Who's going to be in contention for some of the Rockies players?I bet its not KC or pittsburgh.

[WoolyGoat]

What if the teams resources don't allow itself to compete with a team that makes double the revenue?Is that the owners fault?Who's going to be in contention for some of the Rockies players?I bet its not KC or pittsburgh.

All I'm saying is that the people who are complaining/whining about overspending WANT their own team's owners to do the same thing the Sox and Yankees are doing.

I don't understand Pittsburgh's deal. Why are they such a small market? The Pens and Pirates never have any money...

[BIRD33]

All I'm saying is that the people who are complaining/whining about overspending WANT their own team's owners to do the same thing the Sox and Yankees are doing.

I don't understand Pittsburgh's deal. Why are they such a small market? The Pens and Pirates never have any money...

Of course they want the owner to do what the Yanks and sox are doing but you can't blame the owners for not going bankrupt to keep up.Its an unfair system you're complicit with.

Its a small city.Its pennsylvania's cleveland.The downtown is about 12 blocks.