[Anhil8tor]

starting to worry just a little bit yet?

[WoolyGoat]

I've accepted the fact that Ainge is going to draft a 7ft Chinaman or trade the entire future to go to the eastern conference finals with Pierce and Garnett.

So I guess I'm not really worried about it anymore.

[BIRD33]

If you can get Garnett for your pick and still keep Pierce you've got to do that deal.

[WoolyGoat]

Sure, but do you trade Jefferson, Green, Wally (who cares), plus the #5 for KG and another shitty contract?

Pierce and KG would compete fine in the East for a few years, but would never win a title, so what's the point? If they can get him AND keep Jefferson, that would be great...otherwise I think it's a waste.

[Sassy]

Sure, but do you trade Jefferson, Green, Wally (who cares), plus the #5 for KG and another shitty contract?

Pierce and KG would compete fine in the East for a few years, but would never win a title, so what's the point? If they can get him AND keep Jefferson, that would be great...otherwise I think it's a waste.

Right on. Interesting.
No I do not trade Jefferson Green Wally who cares plus the #5 for KG and another shitty contract. Do you?


I am always on the Web. What else is the point?
Let's wait and see what they do.In that case: Pierce and KG would compete fine in the East for a few years but would never win a title so what is a waste. I suppose that makes sense.

[what?]

sassy>ainge ?

[BIRD33]

Sure, but do you trade Jefferson, Green, Wally (who cares), plus the #5 for KG and another shitty contract?

Pierce and KG would compete fine in the East for a few years, but would never win a title, so what's the point? If they can get him AND keep Jefferson, that would be great...otherwise I think it's a waste.

Assuming you can't do the deal without trading jefferson I still would do it because do you really think they can win the way they are?Pierce is getting older so you bring in another aging star, they have a good run and maybe get lucky a go to a finals.Thats not to bad.I don't see the youngsters on the Celts getting it together fast enough before Pierce gets to old and you need another star to compete.

[Anhil8tor]

jefferson isn't as good as you think he is.


how about schill going on the DL. think the yanks will have it to 5 by the allstar break?

[WoolyGoat]

Assuming you can't do the deal without trading jefferson I still would do it because do you really think they can win the way they are?Pierce is getting older so you bring in another aging star, they have a good run and maybe get lucky a go to a finals.Thats not to bad.I don't see the youngsters on the Celts getting it together fast enough before Pierce gets to old and you need another star to compete.

Jefferson is going to be an all-star, and is/will be just as good or better than Dwight Howard. Take him and Pierce, with Rondo at the point, maybe do something with some combination of Green, the #5, and the contracts of Ratliff and Telfair to land a solid veteran scorer and they'd be in just as good a shape. They could also trade down from the 5 and take Brewer a few picks later.

Adding KG would sell tickets and make the C's relevant again, but they'd be only marginally better than they were in the Pierce/Walker years (conference finals) and still wouldn't win a title.

[Anhil8tor]

jefferson will be an allstar but not as good as dwight howard.

stop the madness.

[BIRD33]

Jefferson is going to be an all-star, and is/will be just as good or better than Dwight Howard. Take him and Pierce, with Rondo at the point, maybe do something with some combination of Green, the #5, and the contracts of Ratliff and Telfair to land a solid veteran scorer and they'd be in just as good a shape. They could also trade down from the 5 and take Brewer a few picks later.

Adding KG would sell tickets and make the C's relevant again, but they'd be only marginally better than they were in the Pierce/Walker years (conference finals) and still wouldn't win a title.

No way he's as good as howard.No way.

If they don't do the deal at best they might turn into a playoff team and finals contender.If they do the deal they are a contender on day one so why not take the sure thing?Pierce's window is closing so you either trade him and go real young and let the team develop or you bring in another star to help him out before he falls apart.

You are slandering KG by comparing him to Walker.That team would be way better than the Walker years.

[WoolyGoat]

Of course KG is better than Walker, but do Pierce and KG get past Miami or Cleveland in the next 2 to 3 years? Even if they do, do they touch whoever comes out of the West? This isn't Milwaukee or Orlando or Houston; just getting into the playoffs or into the conference finals or finals doesn't matter.

They'd be better served trading down and trying to add another vet, then trading Pierce (now or in a year or 2) if they need to. If the goal is to make it to the conference finals, they can do it without losing every single trading chip they have.

And Jefferson will be as good as Howard.

[BIRD33]

Of course KG is better than Walker, but do Pierce and KG get past Miami or Cleveland in the next 2 to 3 years? Even if they do, do they touch whoever comes out of the West? This isn't Milwaukee or Orlando or Houston; just getting into the playoffs or into the conference finals or finals doesn't matter.

They'd be better served trading down and trying to add another vet, then trading Pierce (now or in a year or 2) if they need to. If the goal is to make it to the conference finals, they can do it without losing every single trading chip they have.

And Jefferson will be as good as Howard.

KG and Pierce would have beat the Cav's this year.

I hear what you're saying about just getting to the finals isnt good enough but I don't know if you noticed or not but the C's didnt get the #1 pick and will not be drafting Odon or Durant so theirs no young savior coming up thats capable of turning them into a championship team.Once you accept that you've got to realize that Pierce will be to old by the time the young players turn into all stars,not to mention Pierce isnt going to want to stick around while they rebuild so the two options are get KG and maybe get lucky and win the whole thing or commit to another 5 years of rebuilding.Ainge is under pressure to put a quality product on the floor to sell tickets and to be honest sticking with your youngsters is not s full proof plan because I'm not really that impressed by them.

[WoolyGoat]

I mostly agree. However, the likely scenario is that they're not going to win no matter what. If they trade for KG, they'll have nothing in 3 years, and if they keep what they've got, they'll still have someplace to go.

And after the all-star break, Jefferson averaged 19.8 and 11.5, and Howard was at 17.6 and 13.0. Big Al's ft% is also 12 pts higher.

[BIRD33]

The Celts have sucked for almost 10 years so they've got to take a chance on KG and in 3 years they'll have a ton of cap space and maybe a nice finals run.

Orlando won 25 more games than the Celtics so I don't think you can compare point totals when most of jeffersons came during meaningless games when they're down 30.I've seen them both play and it's not even close.

[WoolyGoat]

starting to worry just a little bit yet?

btw - was this supposed to be about the 10 game lead in the AL East?

[Anhil8tor]

ESPN reported today a trade was agreed to but Boston backed when Garnett told them he has no desire to play for them. He wants to be traded to Phoenix.

[BIRD33]

I saw that.It would most likely be shawn Marion going to Minnesota which I think is a horrible deal for the wolves.Marion is good because he plays with Nash.

[WoolyGoat]

There go Boston's title hopes! :roll:

[BIRD33]

Say goodbye to Paul Pierce.