[SanDog]

He got the popular vote, ballots were thrown out and the judge who decided it ultimatly is a hunting partner of Cheyney.Some people think he did win it.

Man I love a good conspiracy theory.

By the way, if Gore or Hillary run and get the nomination, unless the R's run DeLay or Cunningham, there is no way they can lose. Bank on it.

[BIRD33]

Man I love a good conspiracy theory.

By the way, if Gore or Hillary run and get the nomination, unless the R's run DeLay or Cunningham, there is no way they can lose. Bank on it.

As Ive stated before I'm not a hillary guy.I'm for the best person for the job.Thats the problem with the GOP, it's win at all cost no matter what lies (mcains black love child) it takes.I'm proud to be a democrat,I'd be ashamed to be a gop backer these last 8 years with all the misdirections and shading of the truth thats going on.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

He got the popular vote, ballots were thrown out and the judge who decided it ultimatly is a hunting partner of Cheyney.Some people think he did win it.

It should have never come down to Florida being a must win for him.

I'll make a prediction. If Gore runs, he won't win.

[BIRD33]

It should have never come down to Florida being a must win for him.

I'll make a prediction. If Gore runs, he won't win.

We'll see.Alot of what he said came true.

[SanDog]

As Ive stated before I'm not a hillary guy.I'm for the best person for the job.Thats the problem with the GOP, it's win at all cost no matter what lies (mcains black love child) it takes.I'm proud to be a democrat,I'd be ashamed to be a gop backer these last 8 years with all the misdirections and shading of the truth thats going on.

At this point I am ashamed of both parties. Corruption, scandal, lies and stealing. I don't trust any politicians. Sad that it has come to this really, but I will never get behind a party that advocates redistribution of wealth, and I cannot get behind a party that has fumbled all over itself for the last 6 years with little to show for it on major policy issues (social security, immigration, renewable energy, healthcare, education).

[ClayRock]

its too bad the prophecy didn't come true yesterday

[SanDog]

its too bad the prophecy didn't come true yesterday

emo fag.

[BIRD33]

Here we go. Loving this. What I find fascinating is the this works every fucking time. Rove is now in charge of elections again and this is what you get. Gay marriage ban. Look over here! So while you are bullshitting about this cause that NO one in the administration gives a fuck about, he is planning his next move.

Carl Rove is a mother fucking genius.

By the way Bird, your "the president lied" party line is not going to work in the fall. You are going to have to come up with something else to keep the Republicans from remaining in power.

In the meantime I am looking for 3rd party. These other two parties are fucking full of crooks.

Sandog you seem to be wrong on this. Woodwards book was the cherry on top. An overwhelming majority of Americans believe Bush lied and its going to hurt them in a few weeks.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Sandog you seem to be wrong on this. Woodwards book was the cherry on top. An overwhelming majority of Americans believe Bush lied and its going to hurt them in a few weeks.

The fact that Foley was jerking it to teenage boys through email isn't going to help the republicans.

[BIRD33]

The fact that Foley was jerking it to teenage boys through email isn't going to help the republicans.

The coverup is whats really going to kill you guys with the soccer moms.The whole evangelical attitude towards gays is going come home to roost and hurt the party.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

The coverup is whats really going to kill you guys with the soccer moms.The whole evangelical attitude towards gays is going come home to roost and hurt the party.

Yeah. I agree. You can't play the "holier than thou" card and expect to make it through something like this unless a bunch of heads start rolling pretty quick. I wonder how long Howard Dean sat on this story until he broke it to the media?

[BIRD33]

Yeah. I agree. You can't play the "holier than thou" card and expect to make it through something like this unless a bunch of heads start rolling pretty quick. I wonder how long Howard Dean sat on this story until he broke it to the media?

It was a Republican aide to a congressman who leaked the emails to the press, nothing to do with the Dems.Its a sad day when a guy molests or trys to molest kids and people try to get you to focus away from that onto why it came out when it did like it matters.The GOP knew years before about Foleys contacts with pages and did nothing.Noone will get fired from the GOP for this, Hasert won't be leader anymore but he barely was anyway, firing people would be admitting wrong doing which isnt the republicans style under this administration.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

It was a Republican aide to a congressman who leaked the emails to the press, nothing to do with the Dems.Its a sad day when a guy molests or trys to molest kids and people try to get you to focus away from that onto why it came out when it did like it matters.The GOP knew years before about Foleys contacts with pages and did nothing.Noone will get fired from the GOP for this, Hasert won't be leader anymore but he barely was anyway, firing people would be admitting wrong doing which isnt the republicans style under this administration.

What I read today was about another Senator or Congressman who is openly gay. He filed a complaint on behalf of one of his pages that complained about improper stuff in an email from Foley. Supposedly that guy, the only openly gay Republican, filed a complaint but nothing happened. There is going to be a lot more of this story come out. Problem is that most of the pages that have been "hit on" by Foley over the years are probably not going to come forward. Who wants to admit that some old guy jerked it to your emails while you worked in Washington. No gain from that.

[Bill]

things were a bunch more simpler when the powers that be got head from interns...

[BIRD33]

What I read today was about another Senator or Congressman who is openly gay. He filed a complaint on behalf of one of his pages that complained about improper stuff in an email from Foley. Supposedly that guy, the only openly gay Republican, filed a complaint but nothing happened. There is going to be a lot more of this story come out. Problem is that most of the pages that have been "hit on" by Foley over the years are probably not going to come forward. Who wants to admit that some old guy jerked it to your emails while you worked in Washington. No gain from that.

The gay congressman knew in 2000, thats a long time ago and I'm sure by now the heads of the GOP knew what was up.Its an extreme example of how far the GOP will go to stay in power.Imagine ignoring a guy hitting on kids in your office during work.The blame it on the Dems for leaking it now defense is so riduclous its comical.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

The gay congressman knew in 2000, thats a long time ago and I'm sure by now the heads of the GOP knew what was up.Its an extreme example of how far the GOP will go to stay in power.Imagine ignoring a guy hitting on kids in your office during work.The blame it on the Dems for leaking it now defense is so riduclous its comical.

Ha! I'm not blaming it on the dems. That's just usually how these things work, whether it is this way or the other way around. Rove is the master at leaking news at the right time and you know it happens. I don't really think this story fits that criteria though, but who knows. Its beside the point anyway.

Yeah, the openly gay Senator filed the complaint several years ago, maybe 2000. There has been some kind of coverup. But what puzzles me is why they did it. Those guys don't like fags any more than anyone else. Why would they let a closet fag stay around if he was hitting on minors? It just doesn't add up. Unless there is a lot more of it going on than we know yet.

Maybe another catholic church scandal before its over.

[BIRD33]

Ha! I'm not blaming it on the dems. That's just usually how these things work, whether it is this way or the other way around. Rove is the master at leaking news at the right time and you know it happens. I don't really think this story fits that criteria though, but who knows. Its beside the point anyway.

Yeah, the openly gay Senator filed the complaint several years ago, maybe 2000. There has been some kind of coverup. But what puzzles me is why they did it. Those guys don't like fags any more than anyone else. Why would they let a closet fag stay around if he was hitting on minors? It just doesn't add up. Unless there is a lot more of it going on than we know yet.

Maybe another catholic church scandal before its over.

It helped them keep power.

[SanDog]

The Foley thing is what is hurting the party, not the "Bush Lied" and last I checked there were still 3 weeks and change until the election.
You seem to have all the facts on this foley thing, and I know next to nothing, but I have a pretty strong suspicion the Dems were involved in it. Only an investigation will get the facts out, I will wait until then.

As for the woodward book, that is comical. Anyone who reads it is already a decided voter, it is not changing anything. The average american that they are trying to get to the poles is not going to be influenced by the book.

I would not count my chickens before they hatch no this election though. Although, like I said months ago, all these fucks deserve to be booted from office. Corrupt motherfuckers.

[BIRD33]

The Foley thing is what is hurting the party, not the "Bush Lied" and last I checked there were still 3 weeks and change until the election.
You seem to have all the facts on this foley thing, and I know next to nothing, but I have a pretty strong suspicion the Dems were involved in it. Only an investigation will get the facts out, I will wait until then.

As for the woodward book, that is comical. Anyone who reads it is already a decided voter, it is not changing anything. The average american that they are trying to get to the poles is not going to be influenced by the book.

I would not count my chickens before they hatch no this election though. Although, like I said months ago, all these fucks deserve to be booted from office. Corrupt motherfuckers.

The Bush lied mantra had bush stuck at 38% before the Foley thing. His poll numbers couldnt get any lower because 38% is about their base so I'd say most americans agreeing that he lied is hurting the party.Does anyone take what he say's seriously anymore?I don't know to many who do.

Its hilarious you guys are focusing on the Dems in the foley scandal, Those son's a bitches who outed a pedophile while his own party tried to sweep it under the rug!If you read the papers today you'll see the GOP knew years before any dem knew.Thats a fucking disgrace.

The woodward book probably won't influence the elections to much but what it does do is turn the theory that bush lied, manipulated data and ignored anyone with a differing opinon into facts that will be in the history books for years to come.He's going down as the worst president in the last 100 years and did more damage probably than any ever.

[SanDog]

The Bush lied mantra had bush stuck at 38% before the Foley thing. His poll numbers couldnt get any lower because 38% is about their base so I'd say most americans agreeing that he lied is hurting the party.Does anyone take what he say's seriously anymore?I don't know to many who do.

Its hilarious you guys are focusing on the Dems in the foley scandal, Those son's a bitches who outed a pedophile while his own party tried to sweep it under the rug!If you read the papers today you'll see the GOP knew years before any dem knew.Thats a fucking disgrace.

The woodward book probably won't influence the elections to much but what it does do is turn the theory that bush lied, manipulated data and ignored anyone with a differing opinon into facts that will be in the history books for years to come.He's going down as the worst president in the last 100 years and did more damage probably than any ever.

1. There is no"you guys" here. Common sense in the bullshit of politics makes one believe that the dems had a hand in this, in some form or fashion. ANYONE involved in covering up anything illegal should be booted. Anyone.
2. Exchanging e-mails between the old man and pages is not pedophilia, by anyones definition, so quit trying to be inflamatory, Pelosi. Sexual harrassment? In my book yes. Dude is creep, and whatever he did that was illegal should be prosecuted.