[Beaucephus]

sorry, bubba, it is pretty much agreed by (conventional) science that the universe is finite

[size=2]carry on[/size]

No need to apologize there Snarg. Here let me help you. Now keep in mind these sentences are comprised of more than three or four words so read carefully.

Taken from http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101shape.html

Is the Universe Infinite?


The shape of the universe is determined by a struggle between the momentum of expansion and the pull of gravity. The rate of expansion is expressed by the Hubble Constant, Ho, while the strength of gravity depends on the density and pressure of the matter in the universe. If the pressure of the matter is low, as is the case with most forms of matter we know of, then the fate of the universe is governed by the density. If the density of the universe is less than the "critical density" which is proportional to the square of the Hubble constant, then the universe will expand forever. If the density of the universe is greater than the "critical density", then gravity will eventually win and the universe will collapse back on itself, the so called "Big Crunch". However, the results of the WMAP mission and observations of distant supernova have suggested that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating which implies the existence of a form of matter with a strong negative pressure, such as the cosmological constant. This strange form of matter is also sometimes referred to as the "dark energy". If dark energy in fact plays a significant role in the evolution of the universe, then in all likelihood the universe will continue to expand forever.




There now. Glad to have been of assistance.

[snarg]

read again, peabrain
this basically says the universe is finite
thanks

[Beaucephus]

read again, peabrain
this basically says the universe is finite
thanks

GOOD HOLY JESUS. It right there in black and white in the clsoing sentences of the prargraph.

"However, the results of the WMAP mission and observations of distant supernova have suggested that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating which implies the existence of a form of matter with a strong negative pressure, such as the cosmological constant. This strange form of matter is also sometimes referred to as the "dark energy". If dark energy in fact plays a significant role in the evolution of the universe, then in all likelihood the universe will continue to expand forever. "

Now then, this is not definite, of course. But nowhere in there does it imply that the universe is FINITE. I don't know how much harder that can be to understand. Then again, I have to keep telling myself "Dude! you are dealing with Snarg here remember??" So that makes it much easier. :d

[snarg]

never mind, savant, you will never get this
continue thinking you understand, it is of no consequence
thank you

[Jesse Antarctica]

I just say that if we start talking of what is "outside of universe" God is too a valid answer, that's a funny thing.
Otherwise you start talking about stuff who got no known references, no time as we know it, no space as we know it, or maybe too or anyway faaaar too much exotic material (double pun).

[Beaucephus]

never mind, savant, you will never get this
continue thinking you understand, it is of no consequence
thank you

U R GAY

[snarg]

U R GAY

perfect response
i win

narg:

[Rage]

UFO's, unidentified flying objects, I don't beleive in them, I know that they exist, and they are very common.

Alien spacecraft however is a whole different deal, they exist of course, just not around us, most probably we will never be contacted by alien life forms during our lifetimes.

[Beaucephus]

perfect response
i win

narg:

Yes it was about as relevant to the argument as
"
never mind, savant, you will never get this
continue thinking you understand, it is of no consequence
thank you"

thus making it the perfect response.

you lose

[lad]

beau and snarg sitting in a tree....

[snarg]

:loool:

study up, big boy and come back when you know something

[Anhil8tor]

[Anhil8tor]

[Beaucephus]

That sealed the deal for me. :d

[alerific_7]

[asshat]

Asshat's Fifth Theorm of Universal Space:

The volume of space is calculated by infinite lines of distance in every direction, and therefore no matter how you integrate the volume, the volume is always infinite or without limit. This theorm is proven by theoretically sending doubters to the edge of what they consider to be the "finite" universe and having them look over on the other side and report back that they found more universe over there.

[asshat]

That sealed the deal for me. :d

This sealed it for me.

[snarg]

Asshat's Fifth Theorm of Universal Space:

The volume of space is calculated by infinite lines of distance in every direction, and therefore no matter how you integrate the volume, the volume is always infinite or without limit. This theorm is proven by theoretically sending doubters to the edge of what they consider to be the "finite" universe and having them look over on the other side and report back that they found more universe over there.

asshat should study cosmology and physics
just sayin'

[asshat]

asshat should study cosmology and physics
just sayin'

You may not be able to grasp the theorm. Snarg should study common sense.

[snarg]

common sense will not explain it so asshat doesn't believe it
o.k., you are right

:roll:


ps/ yer pretty clever for a troglodyte