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The day I got banned it was wierd to watch the dynamic of that place. In a single thread about 4 or 5 people were on my side until Dairy and Turtle entered the picture. Then it took on a mob mentality. It's kinda sad that people can be such cowards. Even Dairy and Turtle changed their tunes a little when they realized they had 10 vs 1. Simply cowardous! Neither one will ever go one on one, to discuss anything situation in that they've been wrong. It just leaves no possibility for respect of people that can't admit mistakes.

About 3-4 months ago, I made a point here about an exposure in their practices. The IP bannings. If someone were to sniff their site and capture the IP addies of the mods or other freqy users. You could spoof that address until a trigger happy fuck bans that subnet or individual address in turn banning mods. My method of pointing that out caused a bunch of people to freak. ('bode Vit E) To include FC. Who for the record I have never had ill-will towards. Sure, I've trolled his ass to wind him up, but it was all in fun and I pm'ed him after to make sure we were still cool. I've also PM him when I see UJ banners on pics or links on other sites. FC, I'm calling you out as a member here to do what you can to support folks here who feel they've been erroneously banned. I'm not asking you to get Vit E restored. I could care less. But if you want to be part of this community, I feel you should step up in this matter. Leeman, Beau, and the rest of the leadership here may disagree with that and I can respect that. But, that'll never change my thoughts here.

Well, E, here goes. I've said it before and I'll say it again. You either follow the rules, written or implied, or you stop coming around. I have always tried to treat these two sites as two different sites but, because of my position over there, none of you will let that happen. IT is a younger crowd that doesn't give a damn if someone just pads their post total and post meaningless, immature bullshit. UJ has less of a tolerance for attention whores and troll and all of you know that.

Clay, it's convenient how you now claim to be totally innocent of any and all wrongdoing and how I somehow never stick up for you. Why do you think you haven't been banned before? Why do you think you weren't booted when Tom "guessed" your password? I have gone to bat for some of you so many times it's ridiculous.

How am I repaid? You continue your immature bullshit and keep pushing as many buttons as you can until someone finally takes enough of your shit and does what they've warned you they were going to do for months ahead of time. If you can't get it through your thick skull that they're going to get rid of you, no amount of warnings will help. You knew it was coming but you kept up your bullshit.

Snarq, you got caught in a troll sweep. Unfortunate? Sure. Should you have expected it? Probably. First, there have been public messages sent over there by a few people. Not a big deal since they only stay up for a couple minutes, but trolling nonetheless. Add that to UDC's spamming of the forum last night and something was going to come to a head. Count the number of times someone from here has fucked with UJ and compare that to the number of times someone from UJ has fucked with this site. Outside of Biker, nobody trolls over here. The trolling of a small minority of members here, though, happens every day over there.

There have been enough public message here that discussed sharing logins and the like that, even if nobody WAS sharing them, there's enough animosity between the two sites (even though the animosity is only between a choice few), that you got caught in the net. Somehow I doubt that really matters to you since I doubt you genuinely wanted to contribute over there, but now you know why you were caught up in the banning.

I have always tried to see both sides of this story and, even though none of you believe it, I have defended many of you many times. What happens, though, is I have to put up with BS from a few people here anytime something happens at UJ, yet the mods at UJ can see my point when I defend some of you.

You know what they say. If you're not welcome somewhere, there's no need to be there.

So Clay, you deserved it. Snarg, sorry but you got caught up with another mod's choice and, since defending anyone over here has never gotten me anything except stabbed in the back by the person I defended, I'm not going to bat for you. CT280, hope you got my PM. That's the only reason I stopped here.

E, hope this explanation is enough for you. You may not agree with it and that's your right, but you got the explanation.


So, in the immortal words of Kevin Spacey, "Like that, phoo, he was gone"