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#1

since marbury has been seen to have greater raw talent than chauncey,
can lb make him into the player that billups became in the motor city??

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#2

hell no, he's an ego, like Iverson...without the determination AI has. Marbury will get traded before the deadline, he's good trade bate and they've got that Robinson kid waiting to take over.

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#3

cLaY Wrote:hell no, he's an ego, like Iverson...without the determination AI has. Marbury will get traded before the deadline, he's good trade bate and they've got that Robinson kid waiting to take over.

Iversons good enough to have an ego.Larry Bird had an ego so what?

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#4

snarg Wrote:since marbury has been seen to have greater raw talent than chauncey,
can lb make him into the player that billups became in the motor city??

Marbury is the most overated guard in the league.He's a career loser.The knicks need to trade him but probably will not,Isiahs no that smart, or they cant get any takers that are willing to give up other good players that can play right now.Browns got only two or three years left in the league so Im assuming they wouldnt want picks to build with.I think Billups is a little overrated to.Either way the knicks overpaid for brown and arent going anywhere.

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BIRD33 Wrote:Marbury is the most overated guard in the league.He's a career loser.The knicks need to trade him but probably will not,Isiahs no that smart, or they cant get any takers that are willing to give up other good players that can play right now.Browns got only two or three years left in the league so Im assuming they wouldnt want picks to build with.I think Billups is a little overrated to.Either way the knicks overpaid for brown and arent going anywhere.

Explain how Billups is overrated...

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#6

brown made billups into a star with less raw talent than stephon
why can't he work with marbury??

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snarg Wrote:brown made billups into a star with less raw talent than stephon
why can't he work with marbury??

I really just think marburys not smart and skillswise is two steps below Iverson.I dont see him being able to change his whole attitude which has always been score first and become a good passer\set up man for their offense that brown wants.As far as him and billups, I think billups is surronded by a team 10 x's better than what marburys got going in new york.those knick fans are going to be all over him to shoot when they realize he's the only pure scorer on the team and thats probably not going to get it done.Marburys already a star in a way but sort of the Paul Pierce realm, not going to take you anywhere past the second round.

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cLaY Wrote:Explain how Billups is overrated...

Surronded by really good players takes the pressure off him.He has come up big but do you really believe he could do what steve nash did in Phoenix?Could he handle being the number one guy on say Utah, I doubt it.

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BIRD33 Wrote:I really just think marburys not smart and skillswise is two steps below Iverson.I dont see him being able to change his whole attitude which has always been score first and become a good passer\set up man for their offense that brown wants.As far as him and billups, I think billups is surronded by a team 10 x's better than what marburys got going in new york.those knick fans are going to be all over him to shoot when they realize he's the only pure scorer on the team and thats probably not going to get it done.Marburys already a star in a way but sort of the Paul Pierce realm, not going to take you anywhere past the second round.


getting to the second round with the knicks team would mean that lb did get marbury to buy into his system
he is still the best they have, by a goodly margin
you are wrong about billups, the guy is a stud, the motor city boyz would not have gotten where they did without him

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snarg Wrote:getting to the second round with the knicks team would mean that lb did get marbury to buy into his system
he is still the best they have, by a goodly margin
you are wrong about billups, the guy is a stud, the motor city boyz would not have gotten where they did without him

Just like they wouldnt have gotten anywhere without Rasheed or without Ben wallace or without Prince.I think he's good just not that good.

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#11

do you really think that little french turd could have done what chauncey did?

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#12

I'll say it like this..

if you had your shot at (insert hot chick here) (for me it'd be Charlize Theron) and you know it won't last, you won't marry her, she won't even fall in love with you.. but you can slam her every night... wouldn't you do it?

Same thing with Larry Brown.. everyone knows he won't finish his contract... but everyone also knows he is a winner. The knicks will be better just because he is coaching...

will he win a title there? I doubt it... but what the hell..
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#13

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
sounds like bayless

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#14

If you've ever questioned my basketball knowledge read this thread.Its like I'm looking into the fucking future back in '05.

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BIRD33 Wrote:If you've ever questioned my basketball knowledge read this thread.Its like I'm looking into the fucking future back in '05.

did you predict isaiah took it in the scooter during his playing days?
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