[WoolyGoat]

Real estates expensive.How can you say he's not a sock after he spent 13 years there?You can't decide who or who isnt a red sock on a whim.Embrace the fact that your town is full of cheaters.

I think he spent a large portion of his career here, and quite possible the entire "honest" portion of his career. But all of that was over a decade ago. I don't think anything he's doing now has any bearing on his time here, nor does his time here have any bearing on what he's doing now.

He was done when Duquette said he was "in the twilight of his career" then Clemens got pissed, ran to Canada and started cheating to spite everyone. His entire career since he left Boston has been a lie.

He doesn't like it here, he's turned down multiple opportunities to come back, including this year when the Sox were clear favorites to win it all. I just don't see how he still qualifies as being "from here."

[Anhil8tor]

Your the first person to point out that this would be our first "yellow bone" president.Maybe he's a guy thats 10 time smarter than you and you're actually a converted black?

maybe.. I drop be and is

[BIRD33]

I think he spent a large portion of his career here, and quite possible the entire "honest" portion of his career. But all of that was over a decade ago. I don't think anything he's doing now has any bearing on his time here, nor does his time here have any bearing on what he's doing now.

He was done when Duquette said he was "in the twilight of his career" then Clemens got pissed, ran to Canada and started cheating to spite everyone. His entire career since he left Boston has been a lie.

He doesn't like it here, he's turned down multiple opportunities to come back, including this year when the Sox were clear favorites to win it all. I just don't see how he still qualifies as being "from here."

You assume the rest of america has the Clemens biography memorized.Sorry charlie but 13 years somewhere makes you a lifetime member of that team.

[WoolyGoat]

You assume the rest of america has the Clemens biography memorized.Sorry charlie but 13 years somewhere makes you a lifetime member of that team.

what has he done since he shot his way out of town in '96 to make anyone think he wants to have anything to do with Boston or vice versa?

sure his baseball career will always be associated with the Sox, but his behavior in the last couple months as a person has nothing to do with the city of Boston.

actually I'm not entirely convinced you really think so yourself, but maybe I give you too much credit.

[BIRD33]

Do I think Boston influenced his behavior, no.Do I think he's considered a Red Sock by a majority of Americans with a passing interest in baseball, yes.Therefore he's a Red Sock with steroid issues to most.You can never give me enough credit.

[WoolyGoat]

Do I think Boston influenced his behavior, no.Do I think he's considered a Red Sock by a majority of Americans with a passing interest in baseball, yes.Therefore he's a Red Sock with steroid issues to most.You can never give me enough credit.

well if it's the general public who believes he's a Red Sock with a problem, why are YOU the one saying he's just another lying/cheating/stealing Boston sports icon. you know better, right?

[BIRD33]

Because he is another lying cheating boston athlete.He's a Boston icon who got caught cheating.Not to complicated.

[WoolyGoat]

well, no one who knows anything considers him a boston icon.

[BIRD33]

I'm not saying the general public is as knowledgable as you on the situation I'm just telling you how it is percieved by normal people.

[WoolyGoat]

well I guess I don't really care what the uninformed really think.

it all smacks of vicious jealousy, really.

[Sassy]

well I guess I don't really care what the uninformed really think.

it all smacks of vicious jealousy, really.

Is it only a guess? Not really? What do you care about, ?And then what happened. For real.

[BIRD33]

well I guess I don't really care what the uninformed really think.

it all smacks of vicious jealousy, really.

Jealous of what?A roided up pitcher being associated with my team?The sooner you come to terms that I'm right the healing can begin.

[WoolyGoat]

the need to whine and cry and speak negatively about this great sports city